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    From dallasnews site

    Agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Dallas seized three homemade firearms from a Waxahachie man last summer after being tipped off by the man’s son. Agents took one 22-caliber rifle and two 22-caliber pistols from the home of Bennie Nephous Adams, 70, on the 700 block of Becky Lane in July while executing a search warrant, federal records show. They also took a three-ring notebook with “drawings and manufacturing specifications.”
    No charges have been filed. Adams could not be reached for comment.
    The son, Jesse Lieuallen, said he made the report to ATF because his father has been making untraceable fully-automatic machine guns for years. He also says his father has dementia and has threatened to shoot his brother.
    Lieuallen said the Ellis County Sheriff’s Office wouldn’t do anything about it. He said he wants ATF to charge his father for illegally manufacturing the weapons.
    Andrew Young, an ATF spokesman, said the matter is the subject of an ongoing investigation and that he could not comment.
    Lieuallen told ATF in June that his father had a machine gun at his home and that he saw it a month before. But the search warrant did not indicate that agents found one there.
    “He stated that he observed the weapon fire and that it would empty the magazine with one pull of the trigger,” a federal affidavit said. “Mr. Lieuallen stated that the firearm would fire one hundred rounds in five seconds.”
    Lieuallen told me that his father is a former machinist who learned how to make guns after working in a machine shop since he was a kid. He said his father has been making the guns at home since the 1980s. He said they look like “little Tommy guns.”
    “He manufactures them. There’s no telling where they went. He’s made several trips to Belize,” Lieuallen said. “He’s got to be selling them.
    ATF’s web site says people not licensed to make firearms may do so as long as they don’t sell them and they are not prohibited from possessing firearms. But they cannot make a “non-sporting semi-automatic rifle or non-sporting shotgun from imported parts.”
    Also, the Gun Control Act requires that the gun manufacturer pay a tax and seek approval from ATF.
    “An application to make a machine gun will not be approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a Federal or State agency,” the ATF web site says.

  • #2
    My god, you mean the federal laws don't leave the pages and stop people from making machine guns? Turned in by his own sons, man that's messed up. You would think there were better ways of resolving that.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by CJ View Post
      My god, you mean the federal laws don't leave the pages and stop people from making machine guns? Turned in by his own sons, man that's messed up. You would think there were better ways of resolving that.
      Reminds me of that short story that was posted the other day. You can teach your kids all you want but remember that the majority of learning will be inherited via social skills and teachers.
      Originally posted by Sean88gt
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      Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder
      You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five in an eighteen-wheeler.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gonzoss View Post
        Also, the Gun Control Act requires that the gun manufacturer pay a tax and seek approval from ATF.
        Any firearm, or NFA firearms?
        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
          Any firearm, or NFA firearms?

          I just copied and pasted the story...someone with better knowledge should chime in.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
            Any firearm, or NFA firearms?
            NFA firearms, the person who wrote the article has no idea what they're reporting so it's a hodgepodge of unrelated crap thrown together. You can make your own weapon, no ATF involvement required, you just can't sell it.
            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CJ View Post
              NFA firearms, the person who wrote the article has no idea what they're reporting so it's a hodgepodge of unrelated crap thrown together. You can make your own weapon, no ATF involvement required, you just can't sell it.
              how’s that cannon ball mortar going?
              Originally posted by Sean88gt
              You can take white off the list. White on anything is the best, including vehicles, women, and the Presidency.
              Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder
              You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five in an eighteen-wheeler.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gtracer View Post
                how’s that cannon ball mortar going?
                It isn't, gun ban cometh, cj prevent taketh away. Priorities changed since then.
                "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                • #9
                  20 rounds per second...impressive.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SamTex View Post
                    20 rounds per second...impressive.
                    Same as a Mac-10/11.
                    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                    • #11
                      So if you were to make a from scratch machine gun, and not sell it, it is legal? I know that making your own guns is legal, but didnt know about full auto.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Baron View Post
                        So if you were to make a from scratch machine gun, and not sell it, it is legal? I know that making your own guns is legal, but didnt know about full auto.
                        No. All NFA items (machine guns, suppressors, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, grenades, etc.) have to be registered with the ATF.

                        You can't manufacture machine guns, though. I believe that's the only thing that you can't.
                        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CJ View Post
                          My god, you mean the federal laws don't leave the pages and stop people from making machine guns? Turned in by his own sons, man that's messed up. You would think there were better ways of resolving that.
                          My exact thoughts when reading it.

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                          • #14
                            unless pops was unstable and planning on using them for no good, that is a piece of shit son.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by momo View Post
                              unless pops was unstable and planning on using them for no good, that is a piece of shit son.
                              ..
                              Originally posted by gonzoss View Post
                              He also says his father has dementia and has threatened to shoot his brother.

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