Update on UN Small Arms treaty

[DallasSleeper]

This was just sent to me on Facebook, from the National Association for Gun Rights

"On Christmas Eve, hoping you weren't paying attention, the UN voted 133-0 in favor of passing the UN Small Arms Treaty when they meet March 18-28. Gun owners must oppose this dangerous threat to our Second Amendment rights. Please click this link http://www.nagr.org/HillaryUN2012.aspx?pid=fb20 to sign your petition to STOP the UN Gun Ban, then Like and Share!"

[Moose242]

Lol, they voted to continue talks. They didn't pass shit.

Delete this fear mongering bullshit.

[David]

Deys cuming for dem guns and banz

[DallasSleeper]

Lol, they voted to continue talks. They didn't pass shit.

Delete this fear mongering bullshit.

I realize what the vote was for, but it adds to everything else that our administration wants to do. "fear mongering bullshit" Yep I am scared of what these worthless politicians will try to pull

[Moose242]

I realize what the vote was for, but it adds to everything else that our administration wants to do. "fear mongering bullshit" Yep I am scared of what these worthless politicians will try to pull

You mean the "politicians" in other countries who really have no authority over what goes on here?

[DallasSleeper]

You mean the "politicians" in other countries who really have no authority over what goes on here?

Our politicians seem to allow them to already have a lot more input than they should have. I agree that they should have no authority over anything that happens here but yet they do. Hillary and Obama already committed to sign on to it pre election.

[racrguy]

And who gives a FUCK if Obama signs the treaty, it isn't worthy of wiping my ass with unless congress ratifies it. Do you have any idea how difficult that would be? It takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Good luck getting that.

Like Alex said. Fear mongering bullshit.

[Moose242]

Our politicians seem to allow them to already have a lot more input than they should have. I agree that they should have no authority over anything that happens here but yet they do. Hillary and Obama already committed to sign on to it pre election.

I don't think you get it.

The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that

1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.

2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,

3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems a treaty the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others. When you've read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone -- anyone -- claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth.

"... No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or any other branch of government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy clause of the Constitution declares, "This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all the Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land...’

"There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification which even suggest such a result...

"It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power UNDER an international agreement, without observing constitutional prohibitions. (See: Elliot’s Debates 1836 ed. – pgs 500-519).

"In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined."

Did you understand what the Supreme Court said here? No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question!

At this point the Court paused to quote from another of their Opinions; Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258 at pg. 267 where the Court held at that time that,

"The treaty power as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or a change in the character of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter without its consent."

Assessing the GATT/WTO parasitic organism in light of this part of the Opinion, we see that it cannot attach itself to its host (our Republic or States) in the fashion the traitors in our government wish, without our acquiescing to it.

The Reid Court continues with its Opinion:

"This Court has also repeatedly taken the position that an Act of Congress, which MUST comply with the Constitution, is on full parity with a treaty, the statute to the extent of conflict, renders the treaty null. It would be completely anomalous to say that a treaty need not comply with the Constitution when such an agreement can be overridden by a statute that must conform to that instrument."

The U.S. Supreme court could not have made it more clear : TREATIES DO NOT OVERRIDE THE CONSTITUTION, AND CANNOT, IN ANY FASHION, AMEND IT !!! CASE CLOSED.

Now we must let our elected "representatives" in Washington and the State legislatures know that we no longer believe the BIG LIE... we know that we are not bound by unconstitutional Treaties, Executive Orders, Presidential Directives, and other such treasonous acts.

[DallasSleeper]

And who gives a FUCK if Obama signs the treaty, it isn't worthy of wiping my ass with unless congress ratifies it. Do you have any idea how difficult that would be? It takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Good luck getting that.

Like Alex said. Fear mongering bullshit.

Now we must let our elected "representatives" in Washington and the State legislatures know that we no longer believe the BIG LIE... we know that we are not bound by unconstitutional Treaties, Executive Orders, Presidential Directives, and other such treasonous acts.

I get what you are both saying, I do. I will still say this administration does not seem to concern itself with something annoying like our constitution. The supreme court has recently let us down as well. Nothing that these clowns do or try to do surprises me anymore.

[ram57ta]

I unsubscribed to those stupid NAGR emails a LONG time ago...fear mongering BS is EXACTLY what they are sending people.

[tazz007]

I get what you are both saying, I do. I will still say this administration does not seem to concern itself with something annoying like our constitution. The supreme court has recently let us down as well. Nothing that these clowns do or try to do surprises me anymore.

This is what people are actually afraid of.

Dipshit could not get the global warming carbon tax by congress. So he gets the E.P.A. to do the dirty work on power plants. Watch what happens to your electric rates after January.

We thought they would never pass obumer care either.

[ceyko]

Yeah, I think we need to be aware that nothing is impossible.

[YALE]

I unsubscribed to those stupid NAGR emails a LONG time ago...fear mongering BS is EXACTLY what they are sending people.

This. Dudley Brown just wants your money.