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  • #16
    Do want!
    Originally posted by Yale View Post
    That's no mere man! That is Hickok45! That old man is the shit!
    You got that right! I could watch hours of videos, and probably have.
    "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BEARY View Post
      The KelTec has allot of bad reviews and I've chosen to stay away from it at the time. First entry into the shotgun market for them, so not surprised that they users are encountering problems. Not to mention, dealers are selling them at almost double what the suggested MSRP is....
      I recently purchased the RAAC 1919, but have yet to throw any lead down range with it...
      Are you referring to the SHOT show reviews?

      If so, they did some redesigns and addressed/fixed all the concerns that people found at SHOT.

      If you are referencing real world production gun reviews, I haven't kept up with them as I knew it would be a couple years after they were released before they would be easy(er) to find, let alone purchase...
      "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776

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      • #18
        I remember seeing the picatinny rails breaking off.
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #19
          I like the KSG only because it seems more ambi-friendly. That UTAS ejects out the right side, and unless it's reversible I'd be taking shot-gun shells to the chest/right arm every time it ejected. They both seem pretty sweet though.

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          • #20
            i would rather have this ... 1216 shotgun



            its semi-auto...
            too bad its twice the price


            both are neat though

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            • #21
              Damn, that thing is SWEET

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              • #22
                Originally posted by gat0r View Post
                i would rather have this ... 1216 shotgun



                its semi-auto...
                too bad its twice the price


                both are neat though
                I saw one of these up at Jackson Armory if I'm not mistaken.
                "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                • #23
                  Nice!! What are they selling for?

                  On the KSG. I've read many reviews on-line. FTE's, double feeds, breaking rails to name a few

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DallasSleeper View Post
                    I think the Keltec would be a better bet for LE applications, one side lethal and the other less lethal. or one side buckshot and the other slugs
                    With police sometimes not being able to tell the difference between a Taser and their Gun, I don't think they need something else to have a potential life ending mistake, lol.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BEARY View Post
                      Nice!! What are they selling for?

                      On the KSG. I've read many reviews on-line. FTE's, double feeds, breaking rails to name a few
                      The KSG is $800 retail but if you can find one, people want $1600 for it

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                      • #26
                        Was talking about the semi auto unit...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pooter View Post
                          With police sometimes not being able to tell the difference between a Taser and their Gun, I don't think they need something else to have a potential life ending mistake, lol.
                          I'm only aware of one incident, but one is too many.

                          I see potential with the for a simple mistake to turn deadly with the UTAS. Most agencies dedicate a separate shotgun for less-lethal and most I've seen (ours were like this) have bright orange painted forward grip or stock so there's NO chance you're gonna pick up the wrong weapon. And there's still gonna be some bonehead who does.

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