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I'v wondered if there have been any cases of someone shooting an intruder with some sort of novelty round and what the legal outcome was? Iv seen the Zombiemax bullets in various calibers and a lot of exotic shotgun rounds and I always wonder what would happen if someone actually used that stuff self defense. I would think a lawyer would have a field day with it and you would be more likely to get charged with something. But on the other hand if you have a situation where you need to kill someone does it matter what you use to get the job done? I personally will never use anything other than buckshot or hollow points for self defense but wonder about it when I see that type of ammo.
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First thing, it would have to be determined to be an unjustified shooting, the DA would have to agree to prosecute, then they could find a way to use it against you, as they would with any "self defense" round. They would want the jury to think that you only purchased that ammo with the intent of killing someone. Wouldn't matter if it was Zmax, Hydrashok's(sp), Speer, Winchester Silver Tips etc...
If it's ruled as justified use of deadly force, then no need to worry..."Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776 -
Is the intruder a zombie or not? It mattersOriginally posted by Nash B.Comment
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Civil court (ie. lawsuit) is where you'll take it in the shorts. An ambulance-chasing lawyer will look for anything that they can spin and use against you to make you look like a lunatic hoping for a chance to kill and maim. Bumper stickers (protected by Smith and Wesson), tee shirts (Justice. I like mine EXTRA CRISPY with a pic of the electric chair), posts on here saying something like "I wish that sumbitch would've tried that at MY house". Lawyers eat it up.Comment
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Castle Doctrine...Originally posted by JP135 View Post
Provides civil immunity if not found guilty of any wrong-doing in using deadly force to defend yourself... Can't be sued for anything relating to the use of deadly force if you are not being charged criminally..."Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776Comment
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Z-max bullets are just A-max bullets with a glow in the dark polymer tip.ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! hehComment
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I've shot animals other than birds with bird shot. Don't tell anybody though.Comment
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Someone less lazy than me make the following meme with this informationOriginally posted by Yale View Post
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Probably a combination of a-max, v-max, and critical defense. Either way it's just novelty marketing taking advantage of the zombie craze. I'm not even sure the prosecution would recognize the difference.Originally posted by Yale View Post
I've never played with the exotic novelty shotgun rounds but I doubt I would trust any of them as a personal defense round. Dragons Breath, flechetes, etc would probably be harder to explain in court than Zombie Max.Comment
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Most if not all of the "zombie" rounds are just hornady critical defense rounds with a little marketing fun. They do add this disclaimer though,
WARNING: THIS IS LIVE AMMUNITION. THIS IS NOT A TOY.
Disclaimer: Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is NOT a toy (IT IS LIVE AMMUNITION), but is intended only to be used on...ZOMBIES, also known as the living dead, undead, etc. No human being, plant, animal, vegetable or mineral should ever be shot with Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition. Again, we repeat, Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is for use on ZOMBIES ONLY, and that's not a nickname, phrase or cute way of referring to anybody, place or thing. When we say Zombies, we mean...ZOMBIES!Comment
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Who cares. If ive gotta shoot someone they either deserved it or i went crazy. So whatever is in the gun will work.
I really dont want to be shot by anything. fmj,hp, and so on.Comment
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Okay, but what if the zombie isn't breaking into your home or trying to harm you in any way? Maybe they are full on brains for now and they just want to relax or get in on your joint rotation. Perhaps they are lost and have stopped to ask for directions? Can you still shoot them just because they're zombies? Zombies were people too!Originally posted by Jimbo View PostComment
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Well you'd have to be crazy to spend the money on those zombie rounds, so therefore you're not fit to being handling a gun.
On a serious note, who give a damn if they are "Murdering people f'ing rounds and rape you all night shells" - Analyze the situation for guilty/innocent, not ammo that is legal in every aspect.Originally posted by MR EDDComment
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Sorry to be so late in replying. Yes, my own wrongful death lawsuit over a police incident with a resulting fatality (how's THAT for vague?). I won't air the details here. But I will say the plaintiff's crack team of ambulance-chasing scumbags left no stone unturned in trying to make me look like I invented the Nazi death camp. Didn't matter if it was complete fabrication, they'd throw it out there and while we were busy proving them wrong on the last accusation, they'd throw out six more. The important thing was, the judge/jury heard it. Your defense team can object and have the testimony thrown out and stricken from the record, but the judge and jury still heard it - the damage is done.Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View Post
Wrongful death lawsuits frequently have little to do with truth or justice.Comment
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