Oklahomans will soon be allowed Open Carry

[GAP]

One major upside is this here specifically. I can not have to worry about it being 100% concealed...etc...etc.

X2. I won't have to carry this pos p3at in my pocket for summer carry.

[2011GT]

Here in Arizona you just need to be a US citizen to conceal or open carry.

[Hobie]

Am I the only one who thinks we should slip back this way a little bit? As opposed to the "days of the 10001 criminals trying to prey on everyone?"

Also, was unable to ascertain - is it open carry loaded or open carry with magazines somewhere else? Either way, if you want to open carry, great. They have the choice.

Except for a tick up here and there a couple years ago crime has been on the steady decline across the board for over 20 years. You're much safer today in say, NYC, than you would've been 30 years ago.

There is just more media and better forensics today.

That said, I support open carry. Shit, not too long ago my uncle was shot at in Oklahoma during a grocery store hold up.

He's on the phone with 911, they ask basic details, after he says his name the operator says: "MY UNCLES NAME the lawyer?"
Uncle: "Yes ma'am"
Operator: "You represented my brother, how are you doing?"
Uncle: "Well, great before I got here, now I'm hiding from a gunman under a bread display."
Operator: "Oh yeah, right, (he said she laughed) well lots of Polease are on the way."

He was trying to get a detective buddy to get a copy of the 911 tape, I don't know whatever happened with that.

http://www.newson6.com/story/1843079...open-carry-law



Im kinda mixed on it. It would be easier to carry full sized pistols, but man it attracts attention to you...and if someone is about to rob a place you are in, you are target #1

This.

Some would argue you are the first target in a robbery. Others would say that a robber isnt generally looking to kill someone, they are looking for quick cash, and someone stading there openly armed would be a deterent to someone who doesnt want a shootout.

Id just like to be able to carry outside my waistband covered by my untucked shirt and not have to worry about it showing if I move or bend.

You have to be a stupid-stone-cold-crazy-fuck to see someone who is armed and still decide to rob some place for a quick few bucks. A thief is probably just going to wait for you to leave, or come back later themselves, rather than start a gun battle over a few dollars in a register.

And 44 states have open carry, but NOT TX, really???

[2011GT]

Even California has open carry... Lol at Texas

[VaderTT]

Here in Arizona you just need to be a US citizen to conceal or open carry.

Citizen or legal resident?

[silverhatch]

Even California has open carry... Lol at Texas

But in California the gun can not be loaded.

[likeitfast55]

Id just like to be able to carry outside my waistband covered by my untucked shirt and not have to worry about it showing if I move or bend.

This----------- +1

[jakesford]

One major upside is this here specifically. I can not have to worry about it being 100% concealed...etc...etc.

x3... not having to worry about accidentally printing, or using an owb holster with an untucked shirt, etc. I would have no desire to carry openly otherwise.

[ceyko]

Except for a tick up here and there a couple years ago crime has been on the steady decline across the board for over 20 years. You're much safer today in say, NYC, than you would've been 30 years ago.

There is just more media and better forensics today.

To clarify, it was not the "wild west" mentality I was thinking about. Just work ethics, beliefs and over attitudes - in a lot of ways - were generally better.

I'm not saying go full on old school, just the article made it sound like there was something terribly wrong with guns, that time period and so on.

[2011GT]

Citizen or legal resident?

US citizen regardless of your home state.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Even California has open carry... Lol at Texas

Not anymore.

[CJ]

I've heard arguments on both sides of open carry, but I just don't see how open carry is a good idea.

[Big A]

You have to be a stupid-stone-cold-crazy-fuck to see someone who is armed and still decide to rob some place for a quick few bucks. A thief is probably just going to wait for you to leave, or come back later themselves, rather than start a gun battle over a few dollars in a register.

A petty theif and and an armed robber are not the same thing, and a drug-crazed armed fiend is another situation entirely. We've seen plenty of instances where the robber/gansta shot the clerk after getting the cash, showing their diregard for human life. That same thug most certainly would be capable and willing to shoot someone that poses a threat to them.

You are also presuming that he/they see you before deciding to rob an establishement, it's not like a sign over the front door lights up, that says "armed citizen inside." You could be standing at the register with your gun on the opposite side of your body from the door when the bust in. As soon as they see the weapon or you attempting to draw, shots will be fired, and you won't be the one with your finger on the trigger.

[2011GT]

I've heard arguments on both sides of open carry, but I just don't see how open carry is a good idea.

I haven't open carried yet. To weird to me. I see people carrying about once a week. If more people did it I would also.

[Baron Von Crowder]

A petty theif and and an armed robber are not the same thing, and a drug-crazed armed fiend is another situation entirely. We've seen plenty of instances where the robber/gansta shot the clerk after getting the cash, showing their diregard for human life. That same thug most certainly would be capable and willing to shoot someone that poses a threat to them.

You are also presuming that he/they see you before deciding to rob an establishement, it's not like a sign over the front door lights up, that says "armed citizen inside." You could be standing at the register with your gun on the opposite side of your body from the door when the bust in. As soon as they see the weapon or you attempting to draw, shots will be fired, and you won't be the one with your finger on the trigger.

You've been in commie land too long. You voting for Obama too?