Pistols or AR's ?

[Jimbo]

I wanna diversify my diet, should I start with apples or oranges?

Perfect.

[Torinoman]

10 shotguns hooked up to a carousel powered by a cordless drill.

What brand cordless would do you prefer? I have a 6 volt Black and Decker.

Perfect.

Thanks, I thought it was a little under rated.

[Jewmadbro?]

10 shotguns hooked up to a carousel powered by a cordless drill.

That could open up a whole new market for us.

[white88]

Buy both? Any normal person would...

[Jimbo]

That could open up a whole new market for us.

It's gonna be a game changer!

[4.6coupe]

Pistols. Lots of them.

And ar's. Lots of those too.

[Moose242]

To me the investment hierarchy goes like this-

1. Machine guns
There are a fixed amount of these in the United States due to the '86 ban, and you always hear about someone blowing theirs up of having them stolen. The amount of legally registered transferable machine guns can only go down. They go up in value every year by about 5-7% it seems. I bought a select fire M10 in .45acp in 2010 for $3,100 and now everyone wants $4,000 including the big dealers like Ruben Mendiola.
2. Historical Guns
If you buy right you can't lose money on a gun with historical significance. I realize this is a "catch all" category, but can include guns like Lugers, 1911s, various firearms from different wars, etc.
3. Pre-89' ban "assault rifles"
You just don't see the value of these going down. This includes any of the roller-locked H&K rifles, FNCs, real SIG 550s, AUGs, Chinese AKs, Sig AMTs, Valmets, Galils, ETC.
4. Current, uncommon "Assault/Battle Rifles"
Every swinging dick out there has an AR15, and I feel that the market is so saturated with them that they just are not good investments unless yours is special or has some sort of desirable characteristic. This category includes the SCAR, ACR, FS2000, SIG 556, Various AK variants (high quality ones), SL8s, M1As, FALs, XCRs, etc. These may be banned by another "assault weapons ban" so buy them while you can for cheap.
5. Magazines
Even for guns you don't own, buy them now while they are cheap. If there is a ban that restricts hi-caps then you will be sitting on a gold mine. During the 94' ban an $8 M16 mag suddenly cost $90.
6. Certain pistols
Pistols are pistols, but if there is a ban then hi-cap guns will become more desirable. IMO, pistols are not a great investment because of the Heller decision. If anything, just buy a shitload of magazines.


Disclaimer: The above is just my own dumbass opinion. Yours may differ and that is awesome, I encourage others to buy what they want for the reasons they want. I buy guns primarily to shoot and enjoy and them holding or appreciating in value is a bonus that often does influence my decision on what to buy or not buy.

[CJ]

Pistols can increase in value, but only very expensive high end pistols like Pythons, historical M1911's, single action revolvers, etc. And they increase in value pretty slowly at that.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

I dont think I would buy a single pistol as an investment, unless it had a huge historical value

[dee]

I dont think I would buy a single pistol as an investment, unless it had a huge historical value

Pre war 1911's and certain war time brands do well as do some of the early revolvers like the S&W's or Remington's that you don't see a lot of Colts can vary a good bit and you have to know what to look for.

Pre64 Winchesters in certain calibers do really well and all of your high end double rifles hold value or increase especially if a certain ownership can be proved.

[Moose242]

Pre war 1911's and certain war time brands do well as do some of the early revolvers like the S&W's or Remington's that you don't see a lot of Colts can vary a good bit and you have to know what to look for.

Pre64 Winchesters in certain calibers do really well and all of your high end double rifles hold value or increase especially if a certain ownership can be proved.

Obviously pistols of historical significance will hold their value, as I stated in my post.

[dee]

Obviously pistols of historical significance will hold their value, as I stated in my post.

Very true, one just needs to know exactly what they are looking at though. One you mentioned Is Lugers a few markings can make a large difference in price. Like Colts if you find one with factory Ivory grips or other odd options that are rare like barrel length or factory case/box. It's too much of a gamble to just go buy one to sit on unless you know what you're looking at.

Full auto is the guaranteed type of investment, like you stated none are ownable since 1986, just bring z healthy amount of cash to get in the game.

[David]

I personally think full autos as a money making investment is gone (except as to where there's the occasional odd sweet deal). As an investment where you'll lose almost nothing or very very little money is what they are now.

But like all investments it's when you sell or buy into.

[Mr_Fiux]

To me the investment hierarchy goes like this-

1. Machine guns
There are a fixed amount of these in the United States due to the '86 ban, and you always hear about someone blowing theirs up of having them stolen. The amount of legally registered transferable machine guns can only go down. They go up in value every year by about 5-7% it seems. I bought a select fire M10 in .45acp in 2010 for $3,100 and now everyone wants $4,000 including the big dealers like Ruben Mendiola.
2. Historical Guns
If you buy right you can't lose money on a gun with historical significance. I realize this is a "catch all" category, but can include guns like Lugers, 1911s, various firearms from different wars, etc.
3. Pre-89' ban "assault rifles"
You just don't see the value of these going down. This includes any of the roller-locked H&K rifles, FNCs, real SIG 550s, AUGs, Chinese AKs, Sig AMTs, Valmets, Galils, ETC.
4. Current, uncommon "Assault/Battle Rifles"
Every swinging dick out there has an AR15, and I feel that the market is so saturated with them that they just are not good investments unless yours is special or has some sort of desirable characteristic. This category includes the SCAR, ACR, FS2000, SIG 556, Various AK variants (high quality ones), SL8s, M1As, FALs, XCRs, etc. These may be banned by another "assault weapons ban" so buy them while you can for cheap.
5. Magazines
Even for guns you don't own, buy them now while they are cheap. If there is a ban that restricts hi-caps then you will be sitting on a gold mine. During the 94' ban an $8 M16 mag suddenly cost $90.
6. Certain pistols
Pistols are pistols, but if there is a ban then hi-cap guns will become more desirable. IMO, pistols are not a great investment because of the Heller decision. If anything, just buy a shitload of magazines.


Disclaimer: The above is just my own dumbass opinion. Yours may differ and that is awesome, I encourage others to buy what they want for the reasons they want. I buy guns primarily to shoot and enjoy and them holding or appreciating in value is a bonus that often does influence my decision on what to buy or not buy.

Shit... and im on a plane again headed to the gun free state. Alex where can a scar, waffle maker2000 or the mp5 pistol be had from? I gotta buy me some guns on or before november

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[John -- '02 HAWK]

Pre war 1911's and certain war time brands do well as do some of the early revolvers like the S&W's or Remington's that you don't see a lot of Colts can vary a good bit and you have to know what to look for.

without having any historical value, or even a good story do these items earn/make money as an investment? I'm guessing they only have as much value as the next collector thats willing to pay for them. Which to me makes a poor _investment_