Ruger LC9 Issues

[ceyko]

Ruger revolvers are great quality. Ruger 10/22s are good rifles, but they aren't the "best", they're just the most popular .22 to customize.

crap, hope that does not start what I think it's going to start...

[CJ]

Ruger revolvers are great quality. Ruger 10/22s are good rifles, but they aren't the "best", they're just the most popular .22 to customize.

That doesn't make any sense.

[Nash B.]

That doesn't make any sense.

Obviously depends on what your criteria for "best" is.

[ELVIS]

Obviously depends on what your criteria for "best" is.

or adam doesnt know the definition of "best"

god bless.

[Mike]

I've never had an issue with my LC9 and it's probably had 600 or so rounds through it.
If you need me to do what CJ mentioned and measure some stuff on it just let me know.

[ELVIS]

I've never had an issue with my LC9 and it's probably had 600 or so rounds through it.
If you need me to do what CJ mentioned and measure some stuff on it just let me know.

you can use the same micrometer you use to measure your junk.

god bless.

[CJ]

Obviously depends on what your criteria for "best" is.

Exactly, the term "best" is in itself subjective. Popularity is probably most related to "best." You'd have to be a little more specific there - reliability, accuracy, cost, etc. I would say most gun savvy individuals would say the 10/22 is the best.

[CJ]

I've never had an issue with my LC9 and it's probably had 600 or so rounds through it.
If you need me to do what CJ mentioned and measure some stuff on it just let me know.

I bet you his firing pin is out of spec. OAL or shelf length.

[ThreeFingerPete]

That doesn't make any sense.

Best:
Adjective:
Of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality: "the best pitcher in the league".
Adverb:
To the highest degree; most: "the one we liked best".
Noun:
That which is the most excellent, outstanding, or desirable.


A stock 10/22 is by no means the highest quality .22 available. It's not the most accurate, the nicest, the most reliable, etc.

It is however the one with (IMO) the best magazine system, and by far the largest aftermarket. So even being expensive for what it is in stock form, people get to play legos with it and you can ultimately build a phenomenal gun. I look at it like a Fox body mustang. It wasn't the "best" sports car, but the architecture is there along with the aftermarket support solidified its reputation.

[CJ]

Best:
Adjective:
Of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality: "the best pitcher in the league".
Adverb:
To the highest degree; most: "the one we liked best".
Noun:
That which is the most excellent, outstanding, or desirable.

Exactly - the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality. You cherry picked the only thing in that definition to prove your point. You didn't say quality, you said "best" which includes all of those, not just one of them. And of all of those the one that can be quantified is desirability through sales. Like I said earlier if you wanted to make a point you needed to pick something. You can't argue "best" as the term is too subjective - which is why it didn't make any sense.

Every single one of those is subjective except the part I pointed out earlier - desirable. The best derivative of desirability is ownership. And 10/22's outsell all other models combined.

[slow06]

crap, hope that does not start what I think it's going to start...

Haha. Well done sir.

Sorry for starting the thread derail OP. Looking forward to hearing how your situation turns out, aside from my slight hesitation with Ruger I like the LC9 and I have considered one in the past.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Exactly - the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality. You cherry picked the only thing in that definition to prove your point. You didn't say quality, you said "best" which includes all of those, not just one of them. And of all of those the one that can be quantified is desirability through sales. Like I said earlier if you wanted to make a point you needed to pick something. You can't argue "best" as the term is too subjective - which is why it didn't make any sense.

Every single one of those is subjective except the part I pointed out earlier - desirable. The best derivative of desirability is ownership. And 10/22's outsell all other models combined.

No, every one of those is objective, except for the one that you zeroed in on. Notice that the subjective one is the last one in each listing.

Ultimately "best" can absolutely be an objective thing. Think gold medals.

See also:
1best adj \ˈbest\

Definition of BEST

superlative of good
1
: excelling all others <the best student>
2
: most productive of good : offering or producing the greatest advantage, utility, or satisfaction <what is the best thing to do>

[CJ]

No, every one of those is objective, except for the one that you zeroed in on. Notice that the subjective one is the last one in each listing.

Ultimately "best" can absolutely be an objective thing. Think gold medals.

See also:
1best adj \ˈbest\

Definition of BEST

superlative of good
1
: excelling all others <the best student>
2
: most productive of good : offering or producing the greatest advantage, utility, or satisfaction <what is the best thing to do>

Yes I zeroed on the only one you can prove, that's what I just said. That's why I focused on it. Since none of the others can be proven and are entirely subjective. I was not challenging you to an argument, I was simply saying you need to clarify what you're focusing on.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Yes I zeroed on the only one you can prove, that's what I just said. That's why I focused on it. Since none of the others can be proven and are entirely subjective. I was not challenging you to an argument, I was simply saying you need to clarify what you're focusing on.

That was the google definition of best. In my last post, I added the Merriam Webster definition.

[CJ]

That was the google definition of best. In my last post, I added the Merriam Webster definition.

I'm not questioning any of your definitions.