Gimme some ideas on a concealed......

[Mach1Run]

See if you cans find an XDS you can try if you decide to try a semi auto.

[ThreeFingerPete]

If you arent going to shoot a lot out of the revolver buy a Taurus. They are less expensive and they work.

Also Id pass on the bodyguard. I know that the idea of having a factory laser on it could be appealing but the on/off button is in a horrible spot on those. Besides if you needed the gun, 99.9% of the time you wouldnt turn it on

Google "taurus revolver problem" and you'll see that PLENTY of people have had trouble with them. Contrary to popular belief, a revolver can be a piece of shit too.

[Dacotua]

Google "taurus revolver problem" and you'll see that PLENTY of people have had trouble with them. Contrary to popular belief, a revolver can be a piece of shit too.

If I google ANY brand of gun, they will always come back with issues. You can google Smith & Wesson and come back with just as many complaints, hell go google Kimber Problems, and you'd think they are all a POS. However I'd own another Kimber if presented to me.

I've shot Taurus's and they shoot fine, plus they have a lifetime warranty on the gun (Not just to the original purchaser).

[ThreeFingerPete]

If I google ANY brand of gun, they will always come back with issues. You can google Smith & Wesson and come back with just as many complaints, hell go google Kimber Problems, and you'd think they are all a POS. However I'd own another Kimber if presented to me.

I've shot Taurus's and they shoot fine, plus they have a lifetime warranty on the gun (Not just to the original purchaser).

You will find a lot fewer actual functionality problems of J frames than the small frame Taurus guns. In fact, I've never personally seen, or known anyone that has had a J frame that didn't work. I can't say the same for Taurus.

You said "they work", but they don't. You can buy a J frame .38+p for sub $400. Why buy a compromise?

[RobbieMWD]

You stuck on a wheel gun? I have a Kahr Im thinking of letting go.

What model? Finish? And how much?

[Baron Von Crowder]

What model? Finish? And how much?

Cw40, pm me an offer.

[Dacotua]

You will find a lot fewer actual functionality problems of J frames than the small frame Taurus guns. In fact, I've never personally seen, or known anyone that has had a J frame that didn't work. I can't say the same for Taurus.

You said "they work", but they don't. You can buy a J frame .38+p for sub $400. Why buy a compromise?

They work, if they didnt, they wouldnt sell.

Just did a search on J Frame problems, OMG what a piece junk, over 10,000 hits.

Now being realistic, if someone gets mad at something they post the crap everywhere.

Ive personally never seen a J frame or a Taurus fail. Ive seen a plenty of guns fail, most due to ammo or owners neglecting the guns.

Lets do a test. If your so confident a Taurus will fail, let get a Taurus, load her up and allow someone to pull the trigger till she's dry at your car. I'll have you sign all the liability waivers and I have a piece of land we can do it on.

Im very confident your vehicle will have 5 or 6 hole in it(depending if its a 5 or 6 shot)

No takers? Didnt think so

[Jester]

They work, if they didnt, they wouldnt sell.

Just did a search on J Frame problems, OMG what a piece junk, over 10,000 hits.

Now being realistic, if someone gets mad at something they post the crap everywhere.

Ive personally never seen a J frame or a Taurus fail. Ive seen a plenty of guns fail, most due to ammo or owners neglecting the guns.

Lets do a test. If your so confident a Taurus will fail, let get a Taurus, load her up and allow someone to pull the trigger till she's dry at your car. I'll have you sign all the liability waivers and I have a piece of land we can do it on.

Im very confident your vehicle will have 5 or 6 hole in it(depending if its a 5 or 6 shot)

No takers? Didnt think so

even a broken watch is right twice a day.
lol
its a no brainer that S&W makes a better revolver, but i havent ever seen a taurus or smithy break if used with the ammo intended

[ThreeFingerPete]

They work, if they didnt, they wouldnt sell.

Just did a search on J Frame problems, OMG what a piece junk, over 10,000 hits.

Now being realistic, if someone gets mad at something they post the crap everywhere.

Ive personally never seen a J frame or a Taurus fail. Ive seen a plenty of guns fail, most due to ammo or owners neglecting the guns.

Lets do a test. If your so confident a Taurus will fail, let get a Taurus, load her up and allow someone to pull the trigger till she's dry at your car. I'll have you sign all the liability waivers and I have a piece of land we can do it on.

Im very confident your vehicle will have 5 or 6 hole in it(depending if its a 5 or 6 shot)

No takers? Didnt think so

Youre drawing a fucking stupid argument here. When a gun doesnt work consistently, it shouldn't be trusted. Taurus .357 revolvers sell because they look like a smith and are cheaper. The world is full of people trying to justify buying cheap shit because it's "just as good". It's not, never will be. You want to carry a Jennings? Have at out, but don't run around telling people it's as good as a Glock just because you like it.

Im not going to respond to your ridiculous assertion that I should allow someone to shoot my car with a Taurus revolver.

If you buy a .38 j frame, and a .38 taurus, I will bet that in the sample size of one, the taurus will turn into a paperweight faster than the smith.

[Jose]

My Taurus is special

[GrayStangGT]

I've got an LCR and an LC9, both are light and reliable.

[bottlerocket]

Older Tauruses are decent guns in their own right, they were owned by the same corporation and used the same designs as S&W. The craftsmanship of the S&W were still better than that of the Taurus, and in present day there is just no comparison. Sorry, if I'm trusting my life to something, it had better be a sure thing.

If you're down to only revolvers, take your time to check out the J frame Smiths and the Ruger LCR. Stock for stock I prefer the LCR, it has a cleaner and lighter trigger IMHO. But my buddy just got his airweight back from a gunsmith locally and all I can say about the trigger is wow. Its still plenty heavy enough to be completely safe, but it is so smooth and creep-free! I know they make a spring kit for the J frames as well, but he really did a great job on cleaning the break of this thing. Single action is still heavier than most and I didn't expect otherwise, but when you shoot it, the break feels like cracking glass. It really is awesome. Last I looked the Smiths were ~$50 more than the Ruger. They also both make a 357 variant, but if you were complaining about how much the snubby 38 sucks to shoot, I won't even suggest it.

[KBScobravert]

im liking this hammerless

I like my little S&W 642 .38 special. My only complaint was the horrendous 12 lb factory trigger pull but I put in the Apex Tactical Specialties J-Frame drop in duty/carry spring kit that 03trubluGT had recommended and it helped a lot.

I have the S&W442 similar to the pic above in looks and the same as the 642 in design. Great little gun. I have even duty carried it in a SERPA holster here at work.

I am another Apex drop in kit satisfied customer. With the help of YouTube, the kit took me 15 minutes.

[ram57ta]

My dad gave me a 6" Taurus Falcon .38 special last year that we found in the hoarder house he bought. It was buried in trash, covered with rat shit, had significant surface rust and generally looked a lot like something you would find in a swamp or in a river after several years. After a very basic quick cleaning of it to make sure the parts actually worked....I fired it a few times....well actually more like thru a box of 50. Even as nasty looking as it was...it NEVER failed to put a hole in the target. At this point I've cleaned it up as good as its gonna get...the only way to make it look good from all the corrosion now is to get it re-plated. I've put several hundred rounds (standard FMJ, JHP, and even a few +P) thru it and its never failed...not even once. If not for the long 6" barrel I would have no problem trusting it for CCW.

[Jester]

i dont need a 357. a 38 is plenty to make someone stop and take notice. I find that when facing stupid assholes, they tend to follow what the loudest one does. when the loudest one has a wheel gun aimed at his head and he can see the little hollowpoints looking at him, he tends to quiet down.