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Originally posted by bigmuskie View PostHere's a link to my build. It should give you some of an idea on what ring height to go with. I have no experience with the Burris P.E.P.R., but if these guys swear by them, they can't be half bad then.
VLTOR MUR Modular Upper Receiver w/o Bolt Assist Rock River Arms Chrome BCG BCMGUNFIGHTER Charging Handle w/ Mod 4 (MEDIUM) Latch White Oak Armament .223/5.56 Varmint Barrel 20", 1-8,with fitted Gas Manifold Yankee Hill Machine Rifle Length Customizable Forearm Accu-Shot Atlas Bipod (V8.1) Double Star Lower Receiver
Also, I have a DNZ mount on my .17 bolt gun and they're great.
http://www.dnzproducts.com/
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Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View PostWhat the fuck are you trying to say here?
You want the scope as close to bore axis as possible.
The only reasons to raise it are objective clearance, and the ability to reach the charging handle.
I was talking more about small tactical scopes and red dots that don't require extra clearance for the objective. I've mounted one with a set of low rings I had sitting around on my AR just to see how it would be and really had to cram my cheek into it and angle my head down to look through it. Wasn't comfortable for me. Also had to use a riser on my Burris Fastfire on an AR for the same reason along with co-witness with the iron sights.Atlantic Blue '00 - '03 Cobra motor and TKO600, solid axle, full MM suspension
Silver '01 Vette - D1 blown LS
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Originally posted by Trick Pony View PostI understand that having the scope and bore closer together minimizes the vertical distance that POI will be off at distances other than what the scope is sighted in at.
I was talking more about small tactical scopes and red dots that don't require extra clearance for the objective. I've mounted one with a set of low rings I had sitting around on my AR just to see how it would be and really had to cram my cheek into it and angle my head down to look through it. Wasn't comfortable for me. Also had to use a riser on my Burris Fastfire on an AR for the same reason along with co-witness with the iron sights.
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Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View PostA burris fast fire is .6" from mount to dot (approximately). A scope on standard rings (depending on objective) is going to be double that or more, minimum. There is such thing as "too low" when it alters the usability of a rifle. Optic height above bore should be as low as possible (with magnified optic), while still allowing you to operate the rifle effectively. I.E. is co-witness an issue? Can you still operate the charging handle? etc."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View PostAnd on the other side you need to mount a camera to film all the tactical action.
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Gotta do som research on this.
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Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View PostApparently it didn't, based on Trick Pony's comparison between a tiny red dot and a real scope.
I probably shouldn't have mentioned the Fastfire after that and muddled the point.Atlantic Blue '00 - '03 Cobra motor and TKO600, solid axle, full MM suspension
Silver '01 Vette - D1 blown LS
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I just looked up the parts I was using. Burris Xtreme Tactical low rings are 1/4" from rail top to bottom of scope, so we're talking .75" from rail to dot with a 1" scope. The setup was something I had on another rifle anyway, it wasn't intended for the AR. I just put it on there to see what it would be like.
It doesn't matter anyway. The only thing you could mount on rings that low on an AR is a straight tube red dot and the OP is talking about a magnified scope with an objective that's a lot bigger than the tube.
I guess my way of thinking wasn't really relevant to most things people are going to mount on an AR. You'd naturally be using higher rings already just to clear the top of the gun.Last edited by Trick Pony; 07-08-2012, 02:56 PM.Atlantic Blue '00 - '03 Cobra motor and TKO600, solid axle, full MM suspension
Silver '01 Vette - D1 blown LS
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