Looking for 223

[BlackSnake]

Im looking to buy a bull barrel 223 bolt action, possably Savage. Someone have one laying around that they want to sell, or where is the best deal?

[Sleeper]

does it have to be a bull barrel? Id go with a tikka or tc.

I know Of two tikka's both with reloads of lc brass and 24 gr of h335 with 50 gr bt noslers Equals one ragged ass hole at a 100..

[BlackGT]

Tikka's are very nice. My go-to hunting rifle is a T3 Lite in .308. Yes very accurate and very good trigger, but if you want a heavy barrel, the Tikka T3 Varmint's are kinda pricey. The Savage Series 10, 12, and 25 should be what you are looking for. Too many different models to list, but pricing will range from $500 - $2,000 depending on what you want...

I love my Savage 10FCP and my two Savage 93's in .17 HMR.

[BlackSnake]

Well, I don't want to get crazy with it, but I want something with 300 yard accuracy. Thus the bull barrel. And I want to stay in the 6/8 hundred range on pricing since it will be a "varmint" rifle

[silverhatch]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Remington174-Model-7008482-SPS-Tactical-Rifle/754565.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D5102331%26Ne%3D5102331%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dreminton%2B700%26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchallpartial%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26WTz_st%3DSearchRefinements%26form_state%3DsearchForm%26search%3Dreminton%2B700%26searchTypeByFilter%3DAllProducts%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&Ntt=reminton+700&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

[ffRich54]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Remin...h-All+Products

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[dee]

Heavy barrels don't mean it's any more accurate than a light barrel just that it can handle more repeated shots without the barrel heating up and stringing shots. If you're gonna carry it any as a walking varmint rifle I'd look hard at the Tikka's their accuracy is guaranteed and you won't find a smoother factory action.

[BlackGT]

http://www.basspro.com/Savage-12-FV--223-REM-Varmint-Rifle/product/10217955/94249

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/73/products_id/70991

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/73/products_id/71343

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/73/products_id/52965

[BlackSnake]

Nice, but savage has one better with bull barrel, accu trigger, floating barrel with a 1 and 9 twist for about 50 bucks cheaper

[BlackSnake]

Heavy barrels don't mean it's any more accurate than a light barrel just that it can handle more repeated shots without the barrel heating up and stringing shots. If you're gonna carry it any as a walking varmint rifle I'd look hard at the Tikka's their accuracy is guaranteed and you won't find a smoother factory action.

Bull barrels are far more accurate. The thicker/stiffer barrels have less vibration allowing for a more accurate shot.

[BlackGT]

Having owned a Savage 12FV, I can attest to their accuracy. Mine was an early production gun in .308win, ragged holes all day long when I did my part.

5-shots @ 100yds with 10-15 seconds between shots. Subtracting bullet diameter, group measured .392".

[BlackSnake]

Having owned a Savage 12FV, I can attest to their accuracy. Mine was an early production gun in .308win, ragged holes all day long when I did my part.

5-shots @ 100yds with 10-15 seconds between shots. Subtracting bullet diameter, group measured .392".

Nice shooting for sure, but I'm still hoping for long shot accuracy as well.

[ffRich54]

I have two of the Remington 700's in .223 (one is an SPS tact. the other is a PSS) and for the price they are great guns. I have only shot to around 450yds. with them and accuracy has never been a problem...

[BlackSnake]

I have two of the Remington 700's in .223 (one is an SPS tact. the other is a PSS) and for the price they are great guns. I have only shot to around 450yds. with them and accuracy has never been a problem...

Really? And they are not bull barrel?

[dee]

Bull barrels are far more accurate. The thicker/stiffer barrels have less vibration allowing for a more accurate shot.

Kinda, most heavier barrels are accurate but for harmonics and vibrations they are also shorter too, IE 22" max. In a caliber like 223, not the most accurate cartridge by design out there, your not gonna notice a difference unless your sitting somewhere shooting prairie dogs all day, in that case the heavier barrel that doesn't heat up as fast is better.A heavier barrel equals heavier gun which helps the gun ride the bags better. My dad has a light barreled 223 Remington 700 that will stack 5 shots in a 1/2" if the barrel is allowed time to cool between shots. Like I said if you plan on carrying the gun very far and just shoot the occasional varmint then light barrel is more than enough. Trust me carrying a heavy rifle is not a lot of fun when hunting.