9mm hollow point vs .45 acp fmj ball

[no4njnk]

Actually I care more about the gun than the round, for a 9mm Glock 19 is a versatile gun in 9mm and a 1911 in 45 is probably my favorite gun of all time. And as was mentioned if you need more than 3-5 rounds you are already up $hit creek. And shot placement is everything so whatever you are more comfortable with is what you should use.

10mm is a different conversation, big, fast round that has the power to take down small game. If I think I am going to need something that big I will have my rifle with me.

[CJ]

Actually I care more about the gun than the round, for a 9mm Glock 19 is a versatile gun in 9mm and a 1911 in 45 is probably my favorite gun of all time. And as was mentioned if you need more than 3-5 rounds you are already up $hit creek. And shot placement is everything so whatever you are more comfortable with is what you should use.

10mm is a different conversation, big, fast round that has the power to take down small game. If I think I am going to need something that big I will have my rifle with me.

The reason 10mm is nice is so you don't need the rifle.

[Blackout]

You carry DRT?

i use to... but now i have zombie max .380 rounds

[no4njnk]

The reason 10mm is nice is so you don't need the rifle.

The reason I hunt with an AR now in 6.8 is so I don't have to carry a pistol. Shot some hogs I wouldn't want to be in handgun range from.

[Saleen781]

shot placement always trumps both velocity and mass. I carry a .45 with 8 rounds.

[goofygrin]

Here's the article I was talking about: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866

[baylordjr]

this is why i carry a deagle

[forbes]

Think of it this way. A 9mm may expand from. 38 to. 45 given the right conditions. A .45 doesnt need to waste energy on expansion. It just punches straight though you, hitting everything that is possible.

how does that one saying go?
it can be argued that a 9 mm may expand, but it is an undeniable fact that a 45 will not shrink...
something like that , i cant find it

[CJ]

how does that one saying go?
it can be argued that a 9 mm may expand, but it is an undeniable fact that a 45 will not shrink...
something like that , i cant find it

Yeah that works for me, haha. I've been hunting hogs for a while, and I've learned a whole lot about calibers and effectiveness. Expansion, Hydrostatic shock, cavity expansion, etc. etc.. are all theories more or less. From what I've personally experienced - and which has changed my perceptions, penetration is very important. Some might say "over penetration is wasted energy" Well - consider this for instance. A decent hog is about 20"+ wide. A hot .45 ACP or 10mm will punch through that in some situations. but if they are coming at you, depending on where you hit you might not get the necessary penetration, because you need even more. I've seen HP rounds expand and completely stop on a bone 1" deep - they literally did nothing.

But, again for self defense rounds I shoot a 135gr out of my 10mm at 1550fps - so it explodes like a grenade inside a person. I'm trying to avoid over pen in that situation.

[forbes]

i have only hunted birds, duck, turkey and pheasant. not my cup of tea. i want to try boar hunting, but when you brought up the coming at you part... i dunno. seems a little sketch to me... i almost just soon watch lol

[grove rat]

fuck that, bullet placement trumps all

[CJ]

i have only hunted birds, duck, turkey and pheasant. not my cup of tea. i want to try boar hunting, but when you brought up the coming at you part... i dunno. seems a little sketch to me... i almost just soon watch lol

Hogs are fun, I prefer stalking them and shooting them close instead of far. I'm trying some new things. Like I mentioned earlier I shot my last hog with my 870 using some hand loaded buckshot.

I was near the edge of a large tank and there were some fresh wallows near a large patch of cat tails (about 30x60ft). I walked up on the cat tails, walked around them, threw rocks into them trying to scare the pigs outs, I walked through the cat tails (which are about ~7ft tall) several times, yelled, etc.. nothing. When I was walking the parimeter heading back the way I came I saw a pig butt hanging out... I thought to myself... "it doesn't smell like a dead pig." So I aimed at it and it ran through the cat tails where I fired where I thought it was. I ran up a hill out of sight, I chased after it - when I got back to the top it doubled back at me and I got it right in the head.

[GhostTX]

how does that one saying go?
it can be argued that a 9 mm may expand, but it is an undeniable fact that a 45 will not shrink...
something like that , i cant find it

I heard, big bullets make big holes. Regardless, I'm of the theory of: more mass = more momentum = more difficult to slow down.

I carry a .40, just because I wanted more rounds than a standard .45 and more mass than a 9mm. I consider it the compromise.

i have only hunted birds, duck, turkey and pheasant. not my cup of tea. i want to try boar hunting, but when you brought up the coming at you part... i dunno. seems a little sketch to me... i almost just soon watch lol

I've hunted the above plus deer. I want to try pig hunting...well...to try it!

[GAP]

Well this was a re-education for me. I was sold on the temporary cavity theory. I'll be moving to heavier 9mm and 380 projectiles for my carry pistols.

[tazz007]

Watch and use your own judgement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJKZO71mEns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxoO3ikTQg8