Street robberies and you - The Basics

[Jose]

Good read, I thought it was going to be a BS article but it does offer sound advice and confirmed a few things on how I would react. The whole thing about not pulling out a gun until your ready to use it is BS IMO. I have no problems with clearing my gun for a draw and warning a bad guy rather than wait to be attacked before drawing on them.

[Jose]

Same here. I've been to NOLA twice while I've been in school and both trips were surprisingly comfortable and not disconcerting at all.

Same here. Went to NOLA for the first time last summer and had a trouble free and drunken time. Got accosted once by a bum who threatened to beat me up but nothing came of it. We stayed right near Bourbon street and walked everywhere and never used the car until the trip home.

[NTexas_V-Star]

Good read, I thought it was going to be a BS article but it does offer sound advice and confirmed a few things on how I would react. The whole thing about not pulling out a gun until your ready to use it is BS IMO. I have no problems with clearing my gun for a draw and warning a bad guy rather than wait to be attacked before drawing on them.

My same take on the article. I'm not planning on risking getting stabbed/clubbed/shot just to be sure I was justified in drawing, much less firing (if it comes down to that). Otherwise, damn good read.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Good read, I thought it was going to be a BS article but it does offer sound advice and confirmed a few things on how I would react. The whole thing about not pulling out a gun until your ready to use it is BS IMO. I have no problems with clearing my gun for a draw and warning a bad guy rather than wait to be attacked before drawing on them.

I've found that in shitty neighborhoods with a bunch of dirty canadians around, that my shirt tail will inadvertently clear my gun. It's amazing how few of them still want to chat about things.

[svauto-erotic855]

To me this article sounds like it was written in the same preachy condescending tone that you hear coming from the police in the North East and ass holes who work at an Army Navy store.

[Darren M]

Damn.....

the element of surprise is on his side.

Everyone should call their local FBI office and get a copy of Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted. When it first came out it was ground breaking because it demonstrated to academics and other elites what street police knew all along. What did it show in interviews with cop killers? Nice guys finish dead.

From here....

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/leoka/leoka-2010/officers-feloniously-killed

Circumstances

• 15 officers were killed in ambush situations.
• 14 officers died as a result of felonious attacks during arrest situations.
• 8 officers were slain while investigating suspicious persons/circumstances.
• 7 officers were killed during traffic pursuits/stops.
• 6 officers were murdered answering disturbance calls.
• 3 officers were slain during tactical situations (barricaded offender, hostage taking, high-risk entry, etc.).
• 2 officers were killed while conducting investigative activity (surveillance, search, interview, etc.).
• 1 officer was killed while transporting or maintaining custody of a prisoner.

Profile of alleged known assailants

In 2010, 69 alleged offenders were identified in connection with the 56 law enforcement officers feloniously killed. Of those offenders, the following characteristics are known:

• The average age of the alleged offenders was 31 years old.
• The average height was 5 feet 10 inches tall, and the average weight was 178 pounds.
• 67 of the alleged offenders were male; 2 were female.
• 25 of the alleged offenders were white, and 35 were black.
• Most (57) of the alleged offenders had prior criminal arrests.
• 19 of the alleged offenders were under judicial supervision at the time of the incidents.
• 10 of the alleged offenders were under the influence of a controlled substance at the time of the fatal incidents.
• 7 of the alleged offenders were under the influence of alcohol or were intoxicated at the time of the fatal incidents.

Pretty even 41% to 58% racial split, respective to the statistics quoted.

Good stuff Matt. Thanks.

[Forever_frost]

When I'm out, I'm always on a swivel. You just have to train yourself to do a threat assessment on EVERYONE

[dblack1]

Damn.....
From here....

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/leoka/leoka-2010/officers-feloniously-killed

Pretty even 41% to 58% racial split, respective to the statistics quoted.

Good stuff Matt. Thanks.

Not really when you take into account the percentage of white males and black males in this country.

[HarrisonTX]

Not really when you take into account the percentage of white males and black males in this country.

Da Bingo. We got it

[hrt4me]

I lived in NOLA for 5 years, and it's really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be

[ThreeFingerPete]

I lived in NOLA for 5 years, and it's really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be

LOL! It's a dump.

[red95gts]

He starts off with "Lately in GD...."

Anyone know where this guy lives? Just curious.

[ram57ta]

This was a good read but it raises a few questions for me that I think only seasoned law enforcement could answer. This guy says that in a situation you suspect could be bad....to make it evident...or in fact SHOW your weapon and make it clear you have it and aren't afraid to pull it out. OK....sounds great....but from what I was told in the CHL class...ANY time your gun is shown...intentionally or not...that you should call the police and report it so you will be the FIRST person to report an incident. I've met an awful lot of hot-heated, quick to judge cops that would react VERY badly to a person who reports they drew a gun...whether justified or not. Cops don't like people with guns on their person...licensed or not. SO.....what is the opinion on this of all of you? If your walkin at night and you sense someone unpleasant is about to do something to you...and you brandish your gun...are YOU going to call the cops if it frightens the person away? OR are you going to put the gun back up and go about your business....just a curiosity of mine.

[LANTIRN]

This was a good read but it raises a few questions for me that I think only seasoned law enforcement could answer. This guy says that in a situation you suspect could be bad....to make it evident...or in fact SHOW your weapon and make it clear you have it and aren't afraid to pull it out. OK....sounds great....but from what I was told in the CHL class...ANY time your gun is shown...intentionally or not...that you should call the police and report it so you will be the FIRST person to report an incident. I've met an awful lot of hot-heated, quick to judge cops that would react VERY badly to a person who reports they drew a gun...whether justified or not. Cops don't like people with guns on their person...licensed or not. SO.....what is the opinion on this of all of you? If your walkin at night and you sense someone unpleasant is about to do something to you...and you brandish your gun...are YOU going to call the cops if it frightens the person away? OR are you going to put the gun back up and go about your business....just a curiosity of mine.

Depends on the situation. I pulled a gun on someone at my house (well I was living there as a tenant) because I thought they were scoping the place out to rob it. I made it very clear if they tried anything either I or my room mate would kill them; they promptly left and I did not report anything. I never heard anything about it for the rest of the time I lived there, but for the next two or three weeks I did sleep with one eye open and one hand on my pistol.

Of course I am not saying that is what you should legally do when something like that happens; it is just how I handled the situation.

[ram57ta]

Depends on the situation. I pulled a gun on someone at my house (well I was living there as a tenant) because I thought they were scoping the place out to rob it. I made it very clear if they tried anything either I or my room mate would kill them; they promptly left and I did not report anything. I never heard anything about it for the rest of the time I lived there, but for the next two or three weeks I did sleep with one eye open and one hand on my pistol.

Of course I am not saying that is what you should legally do when something like that happens; it is just how I handled the situation.

At your house is a bit different than out on the street..not sure if I'd call the cops or not since Castle Doctrine covers you in your home. Several months back when shit was going south with my tenants I showed up to make a repair to the front door to my house (pre-arranged and they knew I was coming), and my tenant still felt he needed to stand over me and my brother-in-law with a pistol in his back pocket as if to let me know he was the boss. I knew that he was legally entitled to do it so I didn't say anything...but it wasn't a smart move when he owed me 2 months back rent. He and his bitch neanderthal wife were served eviction papers later that week.