Best round for 1,500 yard shots

[BlackSnake]

I've never seen any rifles like that at any of my shooting competitions. My 1000 yard AR weighs 11lbs. The point I'm making is none of these rifles need to be that heavy. People intentionally weight them like that so it's easier to shoot. I personally think it's cheating.

There are weight divisions in competition shooting, so I don't see the cheating end of it. Light Gun, Heavy Gun etc. Surprised you haven't seen this if you shoot competition 1000. But then again, I haven't a clue as to what type of competition you are shooting. Pretty much common ground really.

[Binky]

There are weight divisions in competition shooting, so I don't see the cheating end of it. Light Gun, Heavy Gun etc. Surprised you haven't seen this if you shoot competition 1000. But then again, I haven't a clue as to what type of competition you are shooting. Pretty much common ground really.

Are you talking about the Unlimited Class? They are beasts but they are just a giant rest with a barrel and action.

[BlackSnake]

Are you talking about the Unlimited Class? They are beasts but they are just a giant rest with a barrel and action.

lol, yeah I think thats a water cooled machine. I think IBS has Unlimited class from something like 17/18 lbs and heavier, but they dont all look like that. Some look like a slightly over sized rifle. Do a quick search and you will see what I'm talking about.

[ThreeFingerPete]

lol, yeah I think thats a water cooled machine. I think IBS has Unlimited class from something like 17/18 lbs and heavier, but they dont all look like that. Some look like a slightly over sized rifle. Do a quick search and you will see what I'm talking about.

Wayne, I'm pretty sure that we all know what bench rest rifles look like.

[Binky]

lol, yeah I think thats a water cooled machine. I think IBS has Unlimited class from something like 17/18 lbs and heavier, but they dont all look like that. Some look like a slightly over sized rifle. Do a quick search and you will see what I'm talking about.

Its actually a tensioned barrel. Its threaded on the end with a nut Tighten the nut and it pulls the barrel in tension while putting the shroud in compression. Extremely rigid assembly

[BlackSnake]

Wayne, I'm pretty sure that we all know what bench rest rifles look like.

Hey, I'm just answering questions as they come. When you get into the unlimited class, they can look anything from a typical BR's to something that looks like a machine.

Having said that, and to 5.0_CJ's cheating thread...the record for 1000 was made with a light weight 11lb 6mm Dasher. If I remember right, it had something like 1500 rounds cycled through it before the shoot.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Hey, I'm just answering questions as they come. When you get into the unlimited class, they can look anything from a typical BR's to something that looks like a machine.

Having said that, and to 5.0_CJ's cheating thread...the record for 1000 was made with a light weight 11lb 6mm Dasher. If I remember right, it had something like 1500 rounds cycled through it before the shoot.

A guy who is just getting into long range shooting isn't looking at getting into Unlimited BR.

[Binky]

I dunno, when i learned to drive I was out shopping for top fuel dragsters myself

[BlackSnake]

A guy who is just getting into long range shooting isn't looking at getting into Unlimited BR.

Not necessarily. I have another buddy that is fixing to get into it with a duplicate to Frank's (one I have been speaking about) rifle. Surly offering another option that many are leaning to isn't the wrong thing to say here. If I remember right, the OP said that money wasn't the problem. Why not get a sweet BR?

Personally I do not enjoy range shooting of any kind. Its boring as hell to me, but I know several guys that shoot long range. I go once a year, maybe twice to make sure everything is shooting straight and the rest is in the field hunting. But if you are gonna get into it, start off with something nice for the reason. Expecially if money isnt holding you back.


Edit: My bad. He didnt say anything about money, but I quote, "I would like to do it right the first time". Sounds like a BR to me IMO.

[CJ]

The unlimited class and even the BR class is not a rifle, it's a contraption. I have zero respect for shooters they require 40-100lb rifles, integrated rests, etc. Those are engineering competitions, not tests of skill.

[Reefer Rae]

The unlimited class and even the BR class is not a rifle, it's a contraption. I have zero respect for shooters they require 40-100lb rifles, integrated rests, etc. Those are engineering competitions, not tests of skill.

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[BlackSnake]

The unlimited class and even the BR class is not a rifle, it's a contraption. I have zero respect for shooters they require 40-100lb rifles, integrated rests, etc. Those are engineering competitions, not tests of skill.

I know what you are saying, but let me ask you a few questions.

1. Do you use open sight or scope?
2. Do you use a 16 22 26 28 or 30 and better barrel length?
3. Do you use a rest, sit, stand, sticks or kneel?
4. Do you use a stock trigger or 22 23#?

Of course you don't have to answer these questions, but unless you are shooting a 500 dollar open sight rifle with a 16" barrel and a stock trigger, standing up, some might consider you ..."cheating".

[dee]

The unlimited class and even the BR class is not a rifle, it's a contraption. I have zero respect for shooters they require 40-100lb rifles, integrated rests, etc. Those are engineering competitions, not tests of skill.

They sure are neat to look at though, the gunsmith that built my last rifle was one of the first guys to build a rail/open class gun.

[CJ]

I know what you are saying, but let me ask you a few questions.

1. Do you use open sight or scope?
2. Do you use a 16 22 26 28 or 30 and better barrel length?
3. Do you use a rest, sit, stand, sticks or kneel?
4. Do you use a stock trigger or 22 23#?

Of course you don't have to answer these questions, but unless you are shooting a 500 dollar open sight rifle with a 16" barrel and a stock trigger, standing up, some might consider you ..."cheating".

1) scope
2) 24"
3) all of the above is possible.
4) stock trigger that I worked.

But, I also compete in the service rifle competition with a completely factory 20" M16A1 and do just fine with iron sights out to 600 yards. I like all the skill based competitions. controlling your breathing, squeezing your trigger while holding steady - that's shooting skill.

Sitting on your ass with a wrench in your hand and a solenoid button isn't skill and I don't have any interest or respect for that. It's just an engineering competition, a show and tell.

[BlackSnake]

1) scope
2) 24"
3) all of the above is possible.
4) stock trigger that I worked.

But, I also compete in the service rifle competition with a completely factory 20" M16A1 and do just fine with iron sights out to 600 yards. I like all the skill based competitions. controlling your breathing, squeezing your trigger while holding steady - that's shooting skill.

I wont lie to you. Anyone who can shoot 500 and better like that is impressive. Congrats.

But this is why there are more than one class of long range. People simply enjoy different types of shooting. Mine is at animals.