So lets talk 10/22's again

[momo]

You guys seem to be missing what I was saying. I was saying if you are decreasing your clearances, your tolerances are going to need to tighten up, because there is less room for error.

i completely agree. you have to be way more precise when making things tighter.

issues will come from tightening. dirty ass 22 ammo will have more of an effect for sure.

[CJ]

i completely agree. you have to be way more precise when making things tighter.

issues will come from tightening. dirty ass 22 ammo will have more of an effect for sure.

[momo]

the balance is restored, dfwm armory is back on the same page. h-koch is still the best koch.

aftermarket receivers? maybe more accurate, possibly more prone to reliability issues but they are definetly not the most cost effective choice. if you run out of mods for your 10/22 and have nothing else to drop your money on, by all means knock yourself out.

[Nash B.]

That's why you have to buy the expensive .22 ammo that's also manufactured to tighter tolerances.

[CJ]

That's why you have to buy the expensive .22 ammo that's also manufactured to tighter tolerances.

It's possible this would make sense for someone who is a bench shooter who only intends to compete with the rifle. But so far we've discussed that a) it's a lot more expensive b) would decrease reliability c) may very well not do anything for accuracy d) would increase ammo costs.

In reality it seems to all be a theory that it 'might' help. I don't buy it from my own experiences. But honestly, I don't think any of us intend to do competition rimfire shooting so it doesn't make sense for most all of us.

[ThreeFingerPete]

That's why you have to buy the expensive .22 ammo that's also manufactured to tighter

No it says wolf match/ eley on it, so it must be better for some reason. The price tag says so.

[ThreeFingerPete]

It's possible this would make sense for someone who is a bench shooter who only intends to compete with the rifle. But so far we've discussed that a) it's a lot more expensive b) would decrease reliability c) may very well not do anything for accuracy d) would increase ammo costs.

In reality it seems to all be a theory that it 'might' help. I don't buy it from my own experiences. But honestly, I don't think any of us intend to do competition rimfire shooting so it doesn't make sense for most all of us.

Nobody says it makes sense for us. Like I said, we are guys with 300hp cars arguing about whether lencos are worth the money.

[CJ]

Nobody says it makes sense for us. Like I said, we are guys with 300hp cars arguing about whether lencos are worth the money.

I can tell you a lenco is not worth the money if you intend to use a pair of bare wires for your electronic overdrive switch...Mach1

[ThreeFingerPete]

I can tell you a lenco is not worth the money if you intend to use a pair of bare wires for your electronic overdrive switch...Mach1

Im lost.

[CJ]

Im lost.

Mach1 had a lenco transmission on his mustang and had a pair of bare wires to engage the electronic overdrive. He ran into someone who wanted to race on the freeway, dropped down into second (with the wires still crossed) and blew the lenco up.

[momo]

Mach1 had a lenco transmission on his mustang and had a pair of bare wires to engage the electronic overdrive. He ran into someone who wanted to race on the freeway, dropped down into second (with the wires still crossed) and blew the lenco up.

wow, that makes me insane. who the hell has barb wire on hand but no real insulated wire?

[CJ]

wow, that makes me insane. who the hell has barb wire on hand but no real insulated wire?

Mach1 I'm just bagging on him, rare opportunity.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Mach1 had a lenco transmission on his mustang and had a pair of bare wires to engage the electronic overdrive. He ran into someone who wanted to race on the freeway, dropped down into second (with the wires still crossed) and blew the lenco up.

Ouch. Thats a painful mistake.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Theres no such thing as clearance in terms of dimensioning an item, its all done in tolerances and the dimensioning its self.

That is to say you would give a feature a dimension of x and give it a tolerance of +x and -x. So if you were drilling a hole you would have 3 dims with 3 accompanying tolerances

[Trick Pony]

You guys seem to be missing what I was saying. I was saying if you are decreasing your clearances, your tolerances are going to need to tighten up, because there is less room for error. If you go from .010 to .003 on clearance, your tolerance can no longer be ±0.005, it must be ±0.001. So thereby if you decrease clearance, you must tighten up tolerances. No need for all the cerebral contemplation. They do have an effect on eachother

That's still not the point though. What we are saying is they are not changing the clearance, only the tolerance of the part. You implied that these parts reduce clearance and would cause reliability problems with the gun.