Wanting a 10mm...

[payne5757]

So for a while now, Ive been wanting a full size larger caliber night stand/truck/winter carry/trail protection gun. For the longest I was thinking I wanted another 1911 but the capacity kills it for me and a double stack 1911 doesnt feel right. So while searching and reading, I disovered(yea Im a newb) you can buy a Glock 21 and then a KKM 10mm barrel and Glock 20 magazine and you end up with a convertible .45/10mm. Ive always been fascinated with the 10mm round and it had just skipped my mind till someone brought it up the other day.....

http://www.glockmeister.com/G21_21SF-KKM-10MM-Match-Grade-Conversion-Barrel/productinfo/G21G1/

So my question is... Could all of you in the know lend me some opinions? Anyone have any experience with a Glock 20 or other 10mm? I know theres a handful of Glock haters on here which is fine, but Im a pretty big fan of the guns, just have never had the opportunity to play with a 20. Thanks in advance for all the replies and I hope this doesnt turn into a Glock sucks compared to Brand X thread.

[slowyellow]

Interested if I could do this swap with my 21C as well. Will be watching this thread.

[payne5757]

Interested if I could do this swap with my 21C as well. Will be watching this thread.

I read that you can, the barrel just doesnt have the vents.

[Nash B.]

http://www.glockpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13822&highlight=glock+10mm+conversion+barrel+kkm

[payne5757]

http://www.glockpost.com/forums/show...ion+barrel+kkm

Thanks! Seems that depending on the generation and barrel you buy, you may or may not need an extractor.

[Nash B.]

I've been toying with the idea of buying a Lone Wolf 10mm Long Slide for my G21 for years now. Haven't committed to it yet, probably never will.

[slowyellow]

I know that CJ is going to flip. But what is the major advantage to 10mm, other than it's cool. I just looked up some generic ball ammo and the ft/lbs of energy @25 yds was only 24 ft/lbs more than .45 ACP. I'm just trying to see if 24 ft/lbs is worth adding another caliber of ammo I have to keep up with...

[Nash B.]

I know that CJ is going to flip. But what is the major advantage to 10mm, other than it's cool. I just looked up some generic ball ammo and the ft/lbs of energy @25 yds was only 24 ft/lbs more than .45 ACP. I'm just trying to see if 24 ft/lbs is worth adding another caliber of ammo I have to keep up with...

Most 10mm factory loads are tame. .45 ACP can't come close to what hot 10mm can do. But .45 Super can!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/375984/cor-bon-hunter-ammunition-10mm-auto-180-grain-bonded-core-soft-point-box-of-20

[payne5757]

I know that CJ is going to flip. But what is the major advantage to 10mm, other than it's cool. I just looked up some generic ball ammo and the ft/lbs of energy @25 yds was only 24 ft/lbs more than .45 ACP. I'm just trying to see if 24 ft/lbs is worth adding another caliber of ammo I have to keep up with...

http://www.ballistics101.com/10mm.php

Scroll down to Double Tap ammunition's ballistics!

200gr bullet/750ft-lbs/1300fps = No Joke! = Kill Boar, Deer, Small Bear, Andre The Giant, etc etc.
Its like carrying a .41 Magnum with 16 freaking rounds!

[slowyellow]

http://www.ballistics101.com/10mm.php

Scroll down to Double Tap ammunition's ballistics!

200gr bullet/750ft-lbs/1300fps = No Joke!

I didn't look at the page, but if that is accurate, holy shit. Is that safe?? Is it all the barrel that you have to worry about?

[Nash B.]

I would get a heavy recoil spring before shooting a bunch of the hot loads. IIRC, the 10mm slides are heavier than the .45 ACP slides too.

[CJ]

I know that CJ is going to flip. But what is the major advantage to 10mm, other than it's cool. I just looked up some generic ball ammo and the ft/lbs of energy @25 yds was only 24 ft/lbs more than .45 ACP. I'm just trying to see if 24 ft/lbs is worth adding another caliber of ammo I have to keep up with...

A 10mm has more energy at 100yds than a .45 has at the muzzle. My hunting rounds at 185gr @ 1483fps. It's the only semi auto cartridge legal for hunting deer.

[momo]

a few slots down the my list is a witness elite match 10mm.

[ThreeFingerPete]

For the longest I was thinking I wanted another 1911 but the capacity kills it for me and a double stack 1911 doesnt feel right.

Have you actually held a Glock 20? They're not exactly slim, and they aren't exactly ergonomic either. Which double stack guns have you played with?

[Bassics]

You can do the same thing, cheaper, with a witness.

With the money left over you can choose a half dozen more calibers as well.

Of course, you would be trading the wonderful ergonomics of the glock for the crappy feel of a CZ design, but some might actually consider that a bonus

EDIT:

forgot to add, to really benefit from everything the 10mm can offer, go with as long a barrel as possible. A short barrel ends up being a glorified 40 for the most part.