Thumbs up to familygunfun for UTAH Non-Resident CHL

[David]

The fact of the matter is you gain shit from obtaining one.

[LS1Goat]

The fact of the matter is you gain shit from obtaining one.

That's a pretty baseless assumption considering there are laws in place recognizing the Utah CHL as being valid in the state of Texas. And I personally gained quite a bit from this class. I was actually humbled at the end of the class realizing just how much I really didn't know (but thought I did) about CHL going in.

However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[David]

That's a pretty baseless assumption considering there are laws in place recognizing the Utah CHL as being valid in the state of Texas. And I personally gained quite a bit from this class. I was actually humbled at the end of the class realizing just how much I really didn't know (but thought I did) about CHL going in.

However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

You gain the exact amount of bullshit you do from a Texas chl. So this Utah thing is a joke.

If there were more carry option in other states that don't recognize Texas or makes it easier to carry in one state because of a Utah chl over Texas or something along those lines, I'd understand it.

[YALE]

Matt I see no need for you to leave the topic unless the OP does but then again it is an open forum. I would be interested in hearing if there is any open cases pertaining to out of state CHL and reciprocity in Texas. Over zealous officer or DA is the only that worries me. If it was just me I know I could handle it but I do not want to put my wife in a position she can't deal with. I am just glad I talked her into the course to begin with.

They're all hot and bothered up here about out of state non-resident CHL's. The two popular up here are Florida and Utah, and they're probably going to legislate those away pretty soon. It's not a big deal, though, because the LTCF here is $40, and there's not even a class or a test. It's just a background check.

[03trubluGT]

anyone have recommendations for a Texas CHL course then?

When I am home on R&R my attention span is VERY limited. I would not do well sitting for 8hrs so they better be able to captivate my attention. Not that I am ADD or anything it is just that I have so much I want to do and so little time to do it in.

https://Www.txchl.com

[DON SVO]

I just took the Utah with my sister at Familygunfun. The Utah license has two more reciprocity states (34 to 32, IIRC) and is just as valid.

At the end of the course we went over a copy of the Texas CHL written exam and I was blown away at how simple it was. We learned more than paper training, slot of the class was dedicated to making sure you have situational awareness, and utilize all outs before you pull the trigger.

Might the reciprocity end? Maybe. Perry got re-elected and our legislature is still very pro-gun... Not soon IMO.

From talking with several Texas CHL holders, I'd rather do the Utah course.

[KBScobravert]

Don I took my TX CHL Saturday and I am still gonna try and take the Utah in a few months just for the learning. I agree the TX test was very easy. And truth be told, our TX class could have been condensed to 4 hours very easily.

[LS1Goat]

Glad you enjoyed the class, Don. I liked Brad's attitude and teaching style. Make sure when you send in all your paper work to Utah BCI that you pay for and get return receipt/delivery confirmation. And mail it out on a Monday. They are only open Monday - Thursday. If it arrives on a Friday or Saturday, it will get sent back to Salt Lake Post Office and sit there for a while until they decide to make another redelivery attempt. Just a tip from your Uncle Tim........

And I don't know if Brad talked about it in your class, but it's highly unlikely we'll lose our reciprocity agreement with Utah anytime soon. We can carry in like 34 states only with a couple of those being unilateral where you have to be a Utah resident. It's cheaper, quicker, and as you now know very informative, covers Texas CHL info, and only cost $10 to renew in 5 years with no range time. As long as the current laws stay in place. UTAH Non-Resident CHL will continue to be significantly more economical, practical, and convenient than Texas CHL.

[SSMAN]

Have not wanted to spend 10 hours in a class for a CHL. So this is looking pretty good so far. Will be doing more reading on the subject.

[KBScobravert]

Have not wanted to spend 10 hours in a class for a CHL. So this is looking pretty good so far. Will be doing more reading on the subject.

In all fairness my TX CHL started at 0800 and I was home at 1630. That included driving from Ft Worth to Alpine and lunch. A lot of the class was dedicated to the paperwork and getting the prints and photos etc completed. Don't let a 10 hour number discourage you from taking a Texas class. You have the time believe it or not.

[KBScobravert]

Glad you enjoyed the class, Don. I liked Brad's attitude and teaching style. Make sure when you send in all your paper work to Utah BCI that you pay for and get return receipt/delivery confirmation. And mail it out on a Monday. They are only open Monday - Thursday. If it arrives on a Friday or Saturday, it will get sent back to Salt Lake Post Office and sit there for a while until they decide to make another redelivery attempt. Just a tip from your Uncle Tim........

And I don't know if Brad talked about it in your class, but it's highly unlikely we'll lose our reciprocity agreement with Utah anytime soon. We can carry in like 34 states only with a couple of those being unilateral where you have to be a Utah resident. It's cheaper, quicker, and as you now know very informative, covers Texas CHL info, and only cost $10 to renew in 5 years with no range time. As long as the current laws stay in place. UTAH Non-Resident CHL will continue to be significantly more economical, practical, and convenient than Texas CHL.

I am advocating both. I took the Texas over the weekend and I am going to take the Utah as soon as I can.

[SSMAN]

In all fairness my TX CHL started at 0800 and I was home at 1630. That included driving from Ft Worth to Alpine and lunch. A lot of the class was dedicated to the paperwork and getting the prints and photos etc completed. Don't let a 10 hour number discourage you from taking a Texas class. You have the time believe it or not.

Oh I have the time. Just don't have the patience. Since you are going for both, I will start with my Non resident Utah and then go for the Texas CHL.

On a side note, anyone seen this?

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=40931

n 11/29/2010 Texas House Member Lon Burnam-D, of Fort Worth's District 90, filed HB 356. If passed, the state of Texas will no longer recognize non-resident, out of state CHLs carried by residents of Texas. (A 'loophole'' enjoyed by many Texas residents)

Here is a link that shows the bill's progress...

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB356

Here is a link to contact your representative if you'd like to get involved:

http://www.house.state.tx.us/resources/frequently-asked-questions/#who_rep

[GT Dan]

Before the legislature passed the Castle Doctrine, the DA in Houston was busting people right and left over the "traveling" clause... he had his own definition...

While it may be legal, some of these guys go out of their way to screw with gun owners... look at the old man in Austin busted at a gun show... they put him in jail for selling to an illegal and let the straw buyer go?

The Utah route may be quicker but I'm not going to give some liberal prosecutor or judge any room to suggest I was breaking the spirit of the law... or trying to skirt the system...

[LS1Goat]

Oh I have the time. Just don't have the patience. Since you are going for both, I will start with my Non resident Utah and then go for the Texas CHL.

On a side note, anyone seen this?

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=40931

n 11/29/2010 Texas House Member Lon Burnam-D, of Fort Worth's District 90, filed HB 356. If passed, the state of Texas will no longer recognize non-resident, out of state CHLs carried by residents of Texas. (A 'loophole'' enjoyed by many Texas residents)

Here is a link that shows the bill's progress...

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB356

Here is a link to contact your representative if you'd like to get involved:
http://www.house.state.tx.us/resourc...tions/#who_rep

I'm glad you posted that. I just forwarded that info to a lot of people who will be more than happy to write a short message requesting that the Governor and Senator & Rep. for their Districts vote in opposition to strike down HB 356

I just sent out four politely succinct letters myself.

I would love to engage in a friendly debate with the individual who submitted that Bill. I've read so much about concealed carry, reciprocity, and unilateral agreements this past month it's start to spill out of my ears.

[tex]

I just checked out Burnam's district, and I don't see that being a popular move for his constituents.