Thumbs up to familygunfun for UTAH Non-Resident CHL

[KBScobravert]

I just signed up for the Utah CHL class being taught here on Bagram Airfield the first of February.

[cad424]

I would wait to see what happens with HB 356 before you all spend money on a non-resident CHL.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Search/DocViewer.aspx?K2DocKey=odbc%3a%2f%2fTLO%2fTLO.dbo.vwCurrBillDocs%2f82%2fR%2fH%2fB%2f00356%2f1%2fB%40TloCurrBillDocs&QueryText=concealed&HighlightType=1

Edit: I see someone else posted it.

[KBScobravert]

I would wait to see what happens with HB 356 before you all spend money on a non-resident CHL.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Search/DocViewer.aspx?K2DocKey=odbc%3a%2f%2fTLO%2fTLO.dbo.vwCurrBillDocs%2f82%2fR%2fH%2fB%2f00356%2f1%2fB%40TloCurrBillDocs&QueryText=concealed&HighlightType=1

Edit: I see someone else posted it.

It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

"Gee I don't have it because I was waiting to see what was gonna happen with the bill." That would sound real dumb after becoming a victim if you are even able to talk at all. Imagine that on a headstone or the headstone of a relative. Nah, for a total investment of $150+/- you can always tear up the Utah non-resident CHL if it becomes a worthless piece of paper. Cheap insurance.

This is not directed AT you cad just at the logic of waiting.

I for one was able to afford the TX CHL and had the time on hand to take the course. Even with that said I am going to spend the extra money and take a Utah non-resident CHL and I will apply for it also. I figure it is a statement of taking full benefit of my rights at this time before someone takes them from me.

[YALE]

Florida also has an out of state liscense through their Department of Agriculture, but I'm not sure if they've got a reciprocation agreement with Texas.

[KBScobravert]

Florida also has an out of state liscense through their Department of Agriculture, but I'm not sure if they've got a reciprocation agreement with Texas.

Regarding FL I do know that they do not honor the Utah non-resident but they do honor the TX.

[GAP]

It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

"Gee I don't have it because I was waiting to see what was gonna happen with the bill." That would sound real dumb after becoming a victim if you are even able to talk at all. Imagine that on a headstone or the headstone of a relative. Nah, for a total investment of $150+/- you can always tear up the Utah non-resident CHL if it becomes a worthless piece of paper. Cheap insurance.

This is not directed AT you cad just at the logic of waiting.

I for one was able to afford the TX CHL and had the time on hand to take the course. Even with that said I am going to spend the extra money and take a Utah non-resident CHL and I will apply for it also. I figure it is a statement of taking full benefit of my rights at this time before someone takes them from me.

Or just spend as little as $270 now and get a tx chl vs potentially wasting an additional $150 and another full day in a room. I'm not against nonresident chls btw, I even have one.

[KBScobravert]

Or just spend as little as $270 now and get a tx chl vs potentially wasting an additional $150 and another full day in a room. I'm not against nonresident chls btw, I even have one.

I hear you loud and clear but some folks are only wanting to do the Utah and not a TX.

I did my TX last week and I am doing the Utah on the 6th of Feb.

[03trubluGT]

I hear you loud and clear but some folks are only wanting to do the Utah and not a TX.

I did my TX last week and I am doing the Utah on the 6th of Feb.

You are doing the Utah licenes on Superbowl Sunday?

[KBScobravert]

You are doing the Utah licenes on Superbowl Sunday?

You have to remember that 1500 here is 0530 there in Texas. I will be asleep when the game starts there in Jerryworld.

The Utah instructor here has the class whittled down to 3 hours but we have to get our own FD-258 finger print cards and photo pics.

[03trubluGT]

You have to remember that 1500 here is 0530 there in Texas. I will be asleep when the game starts there in Jerryworld.

The Utah instructor here has the class whittled down to 3 hours but we have to get our own FD-258 finger print cards and photo pics.

I don't know why I was thinking you were gonna be home for the class...

[KBScobravert]

Just to bring this to the top....

I took the Utah CHL yesterday here on base in Afghanistan. 3hrs and mostly coverered gun safety, nomenclature and cleaning. Not a whole lot of time was spent on actual concealed carry and maybe 15 minutes on use of deadly force. But hey I got my stamp and signature so I can send my paperwork off in a few days.

[LS1Goat]

Just to bring this to the top....

I took the Utah CHL yesterday here on base in Afghanistan. 3hrs and mostly coverered gun safety, nomenclature and cleaning. Not a whole lot of time was spent on actual concealed carry and maybe 15 minutes on use of deadly force. But hey I got my stamp and signature so I can send my paperwork off in a few days.

Your instructor obviously has a very limited teaching style and curriculum. We covered all the statutes for Texas and Utah under our reciprocity agreements. We had a full Q&A session on situation awareness. 30.6/51% laws. Being pulled over by PD. Federal facilities and schools. Places of worship. Castle Doctrine. Discussion on no obligation to retreat. And how much caution and restraint you should exercise regarding Third Party Intervention.

You apparently, got the CHL for dummies fast track class. I think he just tries to make it as fast an convenient for you guys as possible. However, it sounds like you didn't learn a damn thing. I came out of my Utah CHL class with several pages of notes (trying to keep up with stuff discussed outside of the scope of the curriculum) and reference materials on all the statues for Texas/Utah. And I learned about 5x more than I was expecting considering the shorter length of actual class time vs. Texas CHL.

[KBScobravert]

You're instructor obviously has a very limited teaching style and curriculum. We covered all the statutes for Texas and Utah under our reciprocity agreements. We had a full Q&A session on situation awareness. 30.6/51% laws. Being pulled over by PD. Federal facilities and schools. Places of worship. Castle Doctrine. Discussion on no obligation to retreat. And how much caution and restraint you should exercise regarding Third Party Intervention.

You apparently, got the CHL for dummies fast track class. I think he just tries to make it as fast an convenient for you guys as possible. However, it sounds like you didn't learn a damn thing. I came out of my Utah CHL class with several pages of notes (trying to keep up with stuff discussed outside of the scope of the curriculum) and reference materials on all the statues for Texas/Utah. And I learned about 5x more than I was expecting considering the shorter length of actual class time vs. Texas CHL.

Was fast track for sure and death by power point. I didn't expect him to cover any Texas law since we are in Afg and he is from Washington state.

He was a great instructor and very good but the information was limited. We covered shit like weaver stances and SA vs DA stuff.....not what I expected. I was suprised though by the amount of soldiers and airmen in attendence that had never shot the M9 pistol. lol One dumbass even said "so like in the movies when they are still moving and going for a gun can you still stand above them and shoot them in the face?" Spc Thug Life, no you can not.

Remember I also took the Texas CHL and I would even sit through either again when I come home for my wife when she gets her's.

[Dacotua]

IF you are a TEXAS RESIDENT, get a Texas CHL.

Many states now do NOT RECOGNIZE NON RESIDENT CHLs. That means if you go to lets say "New Mexico", it will recognize your Texas CHL with your Texas DL. But they WILL NOT Recognize your Out of State CHL with your Texas Resident DL. (You then get arrested and taken to jail for unlawful carry).

Now note, I do not know if New Mexico has a law against non-resident license, I used it as a example, but I DO KNOW some states do this.

[CJ]

IF you are a TEXAS RESIDENT, get a Texas CHL.

Many states now do NOT RECOGNIZE NON RESIDENT CHLs. That means if you go to lets say "New Mexico", it will recognize your Texas CHL with your Texas DL. But they WILL NOT Recognize your Out of State CHL with your Texas Resident DL. (You then get arrested and taken to jail for unlawful carry).

Now note, I do not know if New Mexico has a law against non-resident license, I used it as a example, but I DO KNOW some states do this.

And the current political climate is encroaching on eliminating the non resident CHL's all together.