Issues with 1911...

[Stephen]

$800 is pretty close to $1000, and MOST Kimbers are $1000+. But the good news is that the expensive ones are just as well/poorly fitted as the cheap ones. Apparently the extra money isn't going to the people assembling.

my $650 taurus 1911 has probably been the most accurate pistol ive ever owned(not a 1911 snob and cant afford to be lol). Most of my other pistols are either "compact" or "sub-compact" or lcp/p3at ish... at 50 ft i could keep a really nice 4" pattern

I miss it but couldnt miss out on trading for this colt

I have the original brown grips too


This time i think the gun was better than the brand name.. taurus puts out a good 1911 for the money IMO

[ThreeFingerPete]

my $650 taurus 1911 has probably been the most accurate pistol ive ever owned(not a 1911 snob and cant afford to be lol). Most of my other pistols are either "compact" or "sub-compact" or lcp/p3at ish... at 50 ft i could keep a really nice 4" pattern

I miss it but couldnt miss out on trading for this colt

I have the original brown grips too


This time i think the gun was better than the brand name.. taurus puts out a good 1911 for the money IMO

If you want a cheap 1911, the Taurus is just that. It has a good set of features, and they have proven to be a reliable gun. If I were looking at a $500 1911, i'd scratch up another $129 and get an STI Spartan. It's an Armscor slide/frame, but it's fitted up with STI internals and supported by a local company. Or another $200 and get a Sig Tac-Pac.

If I were going to buy a Brazilian gun, it'd be a springfield armory. Their guns are consistently tighter and smoother than most for the money. Their customer service is also top notch.

The thing about 1911s is that most shooters find them very comfortable to shoot. Therefore it makes sense that they shoot them better, given a decent single action trigger, comfortable ergonomics and substantial weight, they're easier to control and shoot well. That doesn't mean that every 1911 is inherently an "accurate" gun. You get into the difference between practical accuracy and mechanical accuracy.

When you're looking at budget 1911s, you get what you get. There are so many variables in the platform, with no less than 100 people making them 10,000 different ways. Those options mean a lot to some people. If you're spending $500, you don't get many choices on the features of the gun.

People seem elated when their $500 gun actually functions, then get on the internet and say make statements such as yours. That's not a jab at you in any way, but your sentiment is a common one. As far as I'm concerned, if I spend my money on something, it better run!

In the end, the reason some companies get a bad name is rarely because they have never made a good gun. It's more often that they once made a decent gun, and then allowed profit margin to become more important than build quality. Once that happens, then you find out how good or bad a company's customer service is. If a company knowingly produces a bad gun and won't stand behind it, then as consumers we shouldn't stand behind that company. Kimber is a perfect example.

[ThreeFingerPete]

And for good measure, you might be getting a reliable gun, but there's a reason why the Taurus is $500.

http://luannsplace.com/Collectibles/Taurus-PT1911SS/PT1911SS.html

[Stephen]

And for good measure, you might be getting a reliable gun, but there's a reason why the Taurus is $500.

http://luannsplace.com/Collectibles/.../PT1911SS.html

I'm gonna agree with you on this and the previous post.. The point i was getting at is spending between 800-1k on a new pistol that even has a ftf/fte/jam 1 time in not worth the $$ IMO.. You can find "out of the box" accurate guns for much less "springfield, glock, sig, hk etc" There are plenty of great 1911's for less than a kimber that are probably built as good or better..

___Dont get me wrong... i still have an itch for a pro carry II

My colt officer model 1911 has had 2 ftf's now after 300 rounds.. I think its due to the old ass mags though

[mikec]

Check Mate.

[Rick Modena]

And for good measure, you might be getting a reliable gun, but there's a reason why the Taurus is $500.

http://luannsplace.com/Collectibles/.../PT1911SS.html

Wow...

[ThreeFingerPete]

Wow...

The best things in life are free. But the next best things are expensive as fuck.

[Moose242]

He's just a bandwagon fanboi, who likes to spread heresay without personal owner experience, whether it be Kimber, Glock, or anything else that's not H&K.

Lol? Bandwagon fanboy? I own or have owned just about every major brand of pistol out there or have trigger time behind each of them. My opinions on various firearms are well justified I assure you.

People seem elated when their $500 gun actually functions, then get on the internet and say make statements such as yours. That's not a jab at you in any way, but your sentiment is a common one. As far as I'm concerned, if I spend my money on something, it better run!

In the end, the reason some companies get a bad name is rarely because they have never made a good gun. It's more often that they once made a decent gun, and then allowed profit margin to become more important than build quality. Once that happens, then you find out how good or bad a company's customer service is. If a company knowingly produces a bad gun and won't stand behind it, then as consumers we shouldn't stand behind that company. Kimber is a perfect example.

Extremely well said.

The best things in life are free. But the next best things are expensive as fuck.

Gold.

Sig check!

[GSXRK5]

I've had the same problems with my Kimber Covert but using reloaded ammo. Thought I had it fixed by adjusting COL but it seems after its dirty it'll start back up. I need to buy some factory ammo and see if it's the reloads or the gun. Seems my reloads hit the feed ramp.

[Big A]

I didn't get back out to the range as intended yesterday, so no update as of yet. As dry as the slide was, I'm almost certain that was the primary contributing factor at this point, though I definitely haven't ruled out the mags yet. I guess I know what I need to ask Santa for this year, if for no other reason than to replace the stock 7-rounder with some 10-rounders for a few more shots per mag load.

Holy shit Adam, even my noob ass can see how bad that Taurus is. I don't care if it functions flawlessly, I wouldn't "save the money" on something like that based on slide fitment alone, which is apparently indicative of shitty internals as well.

[Ruffdaddy]

This is why I dont understand people bagging on Taurus. My pt 145 has shot better than my dads kimber which has had several jams through at least 1K rounds. We thought limp wresting at first bit that's not the case. Gun had to have some rework to make it shoot properly and we saw some quality issues you should never see with a 1K plus gun. But hey it's easy to hate on the cheaper guns...

[Saleen781]

My Glock 36 (.45) did the same thing. Glock had it twice and couldn't get it fixed so Cabelas gave me another one. They also thought it was the way I held the gun but we ruled that out when tested. Good luck.

[CJ]

This is why I dont understand people bagging on Taurus. My pt 145 has shot better than my dads kimber which has had several jams through at least 1K rounds. We thought limp wresting at first bit that's not the case. Gun had to have some rework to make it shoot properly and we saw some quality issues you should never see with a 1K plus gun. But hey it's easy to hate on the cheaper guns...

It's the lack of consistency. Some guns are fine, some guns are awful. It hurts the brand.

[War Machine]

It's the lack of consistency. Some guns are fine, some guns are awful. It hurts the brand.

Yea it depends on how old the greasy ass Brazilian is and how hung over they are

[Ruffdaddy]

It's the lack of consistency. Some guns are fine, some guns are awful. It hurts the brand.

But several makes...especially Kimber...have the same problems without the rep simply because those who over pay don't want to admit that. It's like a range rover...shit quality but maintains a good rep somehow.