30/30 lever action

[bottlerocket]

Man, this thread is making me want to break mine out and shoot it. It has a crap scope on it now, any recommendations for one?

Yes, its a Marlin, take of the damn scope and shoot it like a big boy

[Forever_frost]

That's a good deal. I paid 300 for mine but had a board member drive it out here with an ammo can full of ammo because I didn't try to jew him

[slowyellow]

Yes, its a Marlin, take of the damn scope and shoot it like a big boy

Lol, I just pulled the scope off of mine and I kind of like it that way. And what is the farthest that it's effective? Like 200 yds or so? Guess I don't really need one. I really need to have it re-blued. Local gunsmith said $140 to do it, not sure if that's a good deal or not. It has quite a bit of sentimental value to it so I'd like it to be back in the shape it was new.

[Bassics]

Accuracy-wise, the leverevolution ammo is in a class all it's own. With the traditional types of 30-30 ammo, the best groups I was ever able to get at 100 yds were in the 3" range. With the leverevolution, 1~1.5" groups were no problem at all. That kind of grouping with an unmodified 336 Marlin is just awesome.

Is that seriously benched or off-hand? In between (lightly rested)?

1MOA is incredible offhand if it is repeatable, but I would think minimum for rested and controlled shooting. I don't know though. I have a damn 16" barrel so I don't expect to have a lot of flexibility.

I do have the chuck conners big lever loop so i can spin-cock it one-handed while riding into a pack of train robbers, but lately I haven't really found a need to do so

[LS1Goat]

Lol, I just pulled the scope off of mine and I kind of like it that way. And what is the farthest that it's effective? Like 200 yds or so? Guess I don't really need one. I really need to have it re-blued. Local gunsmith said $140 to do it, not sure if that's a good deal or not. It has quite a bit of sentimental value to it so I'd like it to be back in the shape it was new.

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[Bassics]

Keep in mind that 200m is pretty close to 200yds, offhand guesstimating by sight pic. And that is pretty close to an eighth mile. Some stand setups have shooting paths out that far, but really, most shots where you would feel comfy, especially with an open sight, are more or less 150 and shorter. Often half that or less. For game.

Different situation for say antelope in hale county or whatever, but really man...

[slowyellow]

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Gotcha!

Keep in mind that 200m is pretty close to 200yds, offhand guesstimating by sight pic. And that is pretty close to an eighth mile. Some stand setups have shooting paths out that far, but really, most shots where you would feel comfy, especially with an open sight, are more or less 150 and shorter. Often half that or less. For game.

Different situation for say antelope in hale county or whatever, but really man...

I will more than likely just be shooting paper with it, I have different guns that would be better to hunt with.

[bottlerocket]

Is that seriously benched or off-hand? In between (lightly rested)?

1MOA is incredible offhand if it is repeatable, but I would think minimum for rested and controlled shooting. I don't know though. I have a damn 16" barrel so I don't expect to have a lot of flexibility.

I do have the chuck conners big lever loop so i can spin-cock it one-handed while riding into a pack of train robbers, but lately I haven't really found a need to do so

1MOA is possible, never seen it done with anything but precision reloads. I know the leverevolution is good stuff, but 1MOA is pretty amazing even for that.

[helosailor]

Is that seriously benched or off-hand? In between (lightly rested)?

1MOA is incredible offhand if it is repeatable, but I would think minimum for rested and controlled shooting. I don't know though. I have a damn 16" barrel so I don't expect to have a lot of flexibility.

I do have the chuck conners big lever loop so i can spin-cock it one-handed while riding into a pack of train robbers, but lately I haven't really found a need to do so

I was seated, the rifle was resting on the 2X4 rests that they have at Alpine range, with a cheap-ass 3-9X40 scope. It was pretty much perfect conditions, if I remember right (no wind, 70's temps, low humidity). The bull on their targets is about 1.5". I kept all 10 rounds inside the bull. I didn't measure the group with calipers or anything, but all 10 rounds were definitely inside of 1.5" Perfect storm? Maybe.

1MOA is possible, never seen it done with anything but precision reloads. I know the leverevolution is good stuff, but 1MOA is pretty amazing even for that.

If the conditions are right, it's not that hard to do. See above.

The point of my post was that with the right ammo, even off the shelf ammo, the 30-30 is capable of excellent accuracy, with groups 1/3 the size of traditional ammo groups a reality.

I was amazed, to say the least. I had written it off as being incapable of anything better than inside the ballpark accuracy. Brien (Skidmark) was with me, spotting, and could also hardly believe it.

[Bassics]

That is rested and controlled in my book, and I'm not saying that to take away from the accuracy. It is just a benchmark I would like to try and duplicate. I used to shoot with some pretty talented mofos and they were all about sub MOA, so I really have no good baseline. Except my own crappy shooting, and I go by minute of hubcap....

[Bassics]

1MOA is possible, never seen it done with anything but precision reloads. I know the leverevolution is good stuff, but 1MOA is pretty amazing even for that.

in what aspect? offhand, okay, that is trigger and the finger behind it, but really, I've seen a very talented shooter with 30-30 AI (not the same I realize) cursing the stray shot that spread the group to over 1 MOA. This from a TC (again not the same).

[bottlerocket]

in what aspect? offhand, okay, that is trigger and the finger behind it, but really, I've seen a very talented shooter with 30-30 AI (not the same I realize) cursing the stray shot that spread the group to over 1 MOA. This from a TC (again not the same).

In what aspect? The rifle, ya know, the thing you kept saying wasn't the same :wink1:

[whitetrash]

my step dad gave me his '65 model 30-30 lever winchester that was handed down to him from his father who bought it brand new. it means a lot to me and probably will never let it go. in terms of performance, excellent deer rifle for 100 - 150 yards. it loses a lot of take down energy beyond that for big game. at least with the ammo that i used to put in it. haven't fired it 10 years.

this is probably what i will use it for. i haven't gone hunting since i was a kid and want to get back into it

[soap]

My dad had a winchester golden spike. 30-30. Gave me his marlin. Good brush gun/hog gun.