Legality of making an AR pistol

[bottlerocket]

Things changed just recently with the ATF letter that went out saying you can convert a pistol to a rifle and back again with out any issues. But it still has to remain whats legal for a pistol and legal for a rifle rifle. So no sbr on a rifle / vertical grip on a pistol / you get the point

Oh damn this part I was unaware of. Nice to know. Its gonna be a flat top 12.5" upper in 6.8 SPC and then when I have the money to get the stamp I'll send in the paperwork and have myself an SBR. But until then its a 6.8 pistol

[David]

My point is, they will start knocking before they have a warrant. Buy more than 3 guns and they'll show up to your house and ask you why.

What?

[bronco71]

The original paperwork on the lower needs to list it as pistol lower or a stripped lower...

[bottlerocket]

The original paperwork on the lower needs to list it as pistol lower or a stripped lower...

Original paperwork? Well the receipt I have from Del-Ton is that its a stripped lower.

[Chopped54]

Original paperwork? Well the receipt I have from Del-Ton is that its a stripped lower.

That is all you need.
As long as when you filled out the 4473 it was not listed as a Rifle, but as a stripped lower or Pistol you can built it as a Pistol.

[Moose242]

Oh damn this part I was unaware of. Nice to know. Its gonna be a flat top 12.5" upper in 6.8 SPC and then when I have the money to get the stamp I'll send in the paperwork and have myself an SBR. But until then its a 6.8 pistol

You can have a vertical grip on an ar pistol now.

Seriously, these dudes hacked the NFA-

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/10/06/franklin-armory-xo-26b-has-franklin-hacked-the-nfa/

As long as it is a certain length, it is deemed not concealable and therefore not an AOW.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

thats interesting but there may be a difference between from the MFR and just adding one. I dont know I would be leery of going in public with a vertical grip on a pistol until the there a letter of clarity

[John -- '02 HAWK]

That is all you need.
As long as when you filled out the 4473 it was not listed as a Rifle, but as a stripped lower or Pistol you can built it as a Pistol.

doesnt the new letter do away with worrying about pistol/rifle markings in the reciever

[Chopped54]

doesnt the new letter do away with worrying about pistol/rifle markings in the reciever

What letter? And no, it does not have to be marked pistol on the receiver.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

What letter? And no, it does not have to be marked pistol on the receiver.

this ruling

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

makes this " "it was not listed as a Rifle, but as a stripped lower or Pistol you can built it as a Pistol. " outdated information.