Legality of making an AR pistol

[bottlerocket]

I know there is a bunch of grey area in any gun law, but I currently own a 16" AR in .223 and I have a lower I want to build into a pistol (until I have the money for a stamp, that way at least I have it halfway done, then can just get a stock for it). So are there any issues with having other ARs as well as an AR pistol due to the ease of just swapping uppers?

[Dacotua]

I know there is a bunch of grey area in any gun law, but I currently own a 16" AR in .223 and I have a lower I want to build into a pistol (until I have the money for a stamp, that way at least I have it halfway done, then can just get a stock for it). So are there any issues with having other ARs as well as an AR pistol due to the ease of just swapping uppers?

So long as you have a AR Pistol, you won't run into any issues (Even if you have AR rifles).

Just don't put those pistol uppers on your rifles.

[helosailor]

You should have an equal number of pistol uppers and lowers that are permanently marked (i.e. engraved or stamped) "pistol", just in case your friendly local ATF agent comes a knocking. Each lower that is marked as a pistol lower must also have a pistol buffer tube installed.

[Chopped54]

You should have an equal number of pistol uppers and lowers that are permanently marked (i.e. engraved or stamped) "pistol", just in case your friendly local ATF agent comes a knocking. Each lower that is marked as a pistol lower must also have a pistol buffer tube installed.

Does not have to be marked Pistol in order to be built as a pistol, just can never have been assembled as a rifle.

[helosailor]

Does not have to be marked Pistol in order to be built as a pistol, just can never have been assembled as a rifle.

Hmm, I wonder how anybody could tell.

I guess I was misinformed. I've always heard that the pistol lowers have to be marked as such to satisfy some tiny tidbit in the regs. Now that I know that, I have two candidates for pistol uppers and buffer tubes setting right here. They've never had a rifle upper on them...ever, I promise.

[majorownage]

You should have an equal number of pistol uppers and lowers that are permanently marked (i.e. engraved or stamped) "pistol", just in case your friendly local ATF agent comes a knocking. Each lower that is marked as a pistol lower must also have a pistol buffer tube installed.

Dont answer the fucking door.

You fuck up even letting some dbag come in and look at your guns.

[helosailor]

Dont answer the fucking door.

You fuck up even letting some dbag come in and look at your guns.

Yeah, um, the ATF isn't always so understanding to "no, you can't come in". Remember Mount Carmel? They don't always wait to be "let" in, sometimes they come in on their own, whether you answer the door or not.
I prefer to lay low, be legal, and avoid unnecessary trouble.

[majorownage]

Yeah, um, the ATF isn't always so understanding to "no, you can't come in". Remember Mount Carmel? They don't always wait to be "let" in, sometimes they come in on their own, whether you answer the door or not.
I prefer to lay low, be legal, and avoid unnecessary trouble.

Be legal?

They cant come in your house without a warrant. Forcing in is illegal.

[helosailor]

Be legal?

They cant come in your house without a warrant. Forcing in is illegal.

By be legal, I mean don't give them a reason to need a warrant. No warrant? Be prepared for trouble.

[majorownage]

By be legal, I mean don't give them a reason to need a warrant. No warrant? Be prepared for trouble.

I'll never let some rotten gubment servant come in and pick through my shit. No way, as long as I live in 'merica.

If you are an ATF agent you better have a warrant before you try to get in my place

[helosailor]

I'll never let some rotten gubment servant come in and pick through my shit. No way, as long as I live in 'merica.

If you are an ATF agent you better have a warrant before you try to get in my place

Exactly. I prefer to not even give them a reason to feel the need to. You know, "don't start nothin, won't be nothin". I've seen what they do with people that don't play by the rules. I don't want them even giving me a second thought, too many headaches to deal with when you end up on their radar.

[majorownage]

Exactly. I prefer to not even give them a reason to feel the need to. You know, "don't start nothin, won't be nothin". I've seen what they do with people that don't play by the rules. I don't want them even giving me a second thought, too many headaches to deal with when you end up on their radar.

My point is, they will start knocking before they have a warrant. Buy more than 3 guns and they'll show up to your house and ask you why.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Be legal?

They cant come in your house without a warrant. Forcing in is illegal.

It must be nice to live in your world. The rest of us are well aware of the flexibility that big agencies have in taking care of business at the citizens' expense.

[majorownage]

It must be nice to live in your world. The rest of us are well aware of the flexibility that big agencies have in taking care of business at the citizens' expense.

It must be nice letting the government violate your constitutional asshole every time they demand service.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Hmm, I wonder how anybody could tell.

I guess I was misinformed. I've always heard that the pistol lowers have to be marked as such to satisfy some tiny tidbit in the regs. Now that I know that, I have two candidates for pistol uppers and buffer tubes setting right here. They've never had a rifle upper on them...ever, I promise.

Things changed just recently with the ATF letter that went out saying you can convert a pistol to a rifle and back again with out any issues. But it still has to remain whats legal for a pistol and legal for a rifle rifle. So no sbr on a rifle / vertical grip on a pistol / you get the point