AR Vs. AK

[CJ]

This AR still worked after 15,000 rounds and no cleaning-

Yeah, unfortunately I've never shot that many without cleaning myself though.

[Baba Ganoush]

I own both, and I'm no expert, or ex military, but I love my AR hands down.

I love shooting my AK, and I grew up shooting everything, and it is by far my most favorite rifle to shoot for fun, blow through ammo. I grew up shooting 99% iron sights, so there is a definate familiarity to that strange commie gun. I love the loose, shoddy feel to it. I love the cheap ammo too.

But in the face of death, give me my AR. Much more accurate, less recoil, and overall more dependable. I have a mid-legth, and while i learned on iron sights, my sight selection for this rifle is soooo nice! The feel is superior to almost anything ive shot. Easy to strip, clean, and customize to me.

Plus in the SHTF cenerio, holding an AR, m16, or m4 is like an American flag, where as the AK screams bad guy, lol.

[03trubluGT]

This AR still worked after 15,000 rounds and no cleaning-

What's the story on "this" AR?

Is that a FailZero bolt, or a coated titanium bolt?

Did you do that, or swipe it off of some website?

[03trubluGT]

I own both, and I'm no expert, or ex military, but I love my AR hands down.

I love shooting my AK, and I grew up shooting everything, and it is by far my most favorite rifle to shoot for fun, blow through ammo. I grew up shooting 99% iron sights, so there is a definate familiarity to that strange commie gun. I love the loose, shoddy feel to it. I love the cheap ammo too.

But in the face of death, give me my AR. Much more accurate, less recoil, and overall more dependable. I have a mid-legth, and while i learned on iron sights, my sight selection for this rifle is soooo nice! The feel is superior to almost anything ive shot. Easy to strip, clean, and customize to me.

Plus in the SHTF cenerio, holding an AR, m16, or m4 is like an American flag, where as the AK screams bad guy, lol.

Fair enough.

But throw this little twist in the equation:

You have no cleaning supplies, and you must trust this gun for the next 12 months without being able to clean it like it should be cleaned.

Would you still choose the AR?

[CJ]

Fair enough.

But throw this little twist in the equation:

You have no cleaning supplies, and you must trust this gun for the next 12 months without being able to clean it like it should be cleaned.

Would you still choose the AR?

Of course I would... this cleaning theory is extremely weak. Seems like everyone throws it out there, but never thinks anything through. How many rounds do you expect to shoot? Thousands? Do you really think you would survive shooting your gun over a thousand times and not get killed? You couldn't even carry enough ammo to dirty an AR up so bad it didn't function. Seems like everyone expects to be in some firefight in call of duty. It isn't hard to clean a gun. Give me nothing more than a dirty ass AR15 and a forest and I will come out in 1 day with a spotless clean rifle. Unless we're taking into account whoever owns this rifle is a complete idiot, I don't see the weak argument around not being able to clean your weapon. And that's to even consider I subscribe to the AR-15 is less reliable than an AK if it isn't cleaned school of thought, which I'm firmly against.

[Baba Ganoush]

Fair enough.

But throw this little twist in the equation:

You have no cleaning supplies, and you must trust this gun for the next 12 months without being able to clean it like it should be cleaned.

Would you still choose the AR?

Well it depends on the frequency of use, storage, and even more importantly environment. I would trust my abilities and my weapon to hold up. If not I would hope to have my AK for backup.

On my survival list, ability to clean rifle is in top 10, right next to moonshine.

[Moose242]

What's the story on "this" AR?

Is that a FailZero bolt, or a coated titanium bolt?

Did you do that, or swipe it off of some website?

Nope, regular ass mil spec bolt from model 1 sales. Got the pictures from The Firearm Blog.

[AnthonyS]

Why is it when I read your post I see you as the fat kid dressed up in battle gear?

You are clueless.

Truth be told, I don't waste any part of my day trying to imagine anything about you.

Your just another idiot LEO with John Wayne / Mario Andretti syndrome the way I see it. That makes you so far below average IQ, there isn't much point in trying to communicate with you.

I actually did a job in the service that required an IQ greater than shoe size. Since you had to be told to put a condom on your barrel, I'm sure you don't meet that requirement.

[Moose242]

Your just another idiot LEO with John Wayne / Mario Andretti syndrome the way I see it. That makes you so far below average IQ, there isn't much point in trying to communicate with you.

I have only met him one time, but I assure you that you could not be farther away from the truth. Trublu is a humble guy.


You on the other hand seem like a colossal douche nozzle.






Damn... all of this over an AK vs AR15 thread.

[CJ]

I have only met him one time, but I assure you that you could not be farther away from the truth. Trublu is a humble guy.


You on the other hand seem like a colossal douche nozzle.






Damn... all of this over an AK vs AR15 thread.

AK's bring the worst out in anybody.

[KBScobravert]

SWAT magazine just did a shoot with a colt factory AR, 19,000 rounds with NO cleaning only a lube everynow and then. End result was the gun exploded but hey who is going to shoot 19,000 rounds with out cleaning the damn thing? Who can afford to? I will see if I can find the article the pictures are awesome.

[YALE]

So are we having a damn gunfight, or what?

[YALE]

AK's bring the worst out in anybody.

That looks just like the assholes bump-firing next to us on the range, excepting their ethnicity.

[AnthonyS]

I have only met him one time, but I assure you that you could not be farther away from the truth. Trublu is a humble guy.


You on the other hand seem like a colossal douche nozzle.






Damn... all of this over an AK vs AR15 thread.

And you perfectly fall for the bait and resort to the same crap Trublu is falling for.

It's really easy to call someone names on the Internet especially if you can't counter their argument.

Heck I may be a douche nozzle but you an Obama cum gurgler since clearly you attended the same school of logic he did.

Easy huh? We could do this forever too.

It still doesn't change the fact that the greatest battlefield rifle of all time ( the AK ) is a pretty lousy personal survival weapon.

If stopping power is your chief argument you can get larger caliber AR uppers quite easily and still have 223 for varmits and small game.

Most people aren't douche nozzles in person but everyone is on the Internet.

[Denny]

And you perfectly fall for the bait and resort to the same crap Trublu is falling for.

It's really easy to call someone names on the Internet especially if you can't counter their argument.

Heck I may be a douche nozzle but you an Obama cum gurgler since clearly you attended the same school of logic he did.

Easy huh? We could do this forever too.

It still doesn't change the fact that the greatest battlefield rifle of all time ( the AK ) is a pretty lousy personal survival weapon.

If stopping power is your chief argument you can get larger caliber AR uppers quite easily and still have 223 for varmits and small game.

Most people aren't douche nozzles in person but everyone is on the Internet.

Just because the AK is the most widely used, doesn't make it the greatest. What's so "great" about it is their cheapness, availability and mass production by so many nations.

If that makes it the greatest, then the Ford Escort is the greatest car of all time. See, doesn't work out so well, huh?