.458 socom

[bottlerocket]

Really? Do you mean a marlin 1895 with a re drilled chamber? I haven't seen a single 45-90 designed around smokeless powder.

I couldn't believe it either, but found it on the Wiki page for the 336

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_336#Conversions

".45-90 Sharps (also called .45-90 WCF) is a non-wildcat conversion for the Marlin 1895. The .45-90 is more than a quarter inch longer than the .45-70 allowing the powder capacity necessary to achieve muzzle energies upwards of 4,000 ft-lbs in modern firearms. These high pressure loads are referred to as ".45-90 Express" and are not safe for use in Marlin lever action rifles manufactured prior to 1948 (nor any other non-modern .45-90 firearm). The .45-90 Express is the most powerful conversion available for the .45 caliber Marlin 1895 that does not require a replacement barrel. The .45-90 conversion involves modifications to the action that increase the bolt travel and action timing (to adjust when a round is ejected, and when a new round lifts to enter the chamber), and the chamber in the barrel is reemed to .45-90 Sharps."

[likeitfast55]

You better start reloading, that's all I can say, lol. I don't know how anyone could own one of those and get any real trigger time buying ammo at stores.

You are right! cheapest ammo I can find is 51.00 per 20 rounds. I will scoop the brass up and reload. 350gr lead is about 1 buck per round! LOL

I found RCBS dies, so now stock up on powder! Any idea how many reloads per brass I can get C-J?

[ThreeFingerPete]

I couldn't believe it either, but found it on the Wiki page for the 336

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_336#Conversions

".45-90 Sharps (also called .45-90 WCF) is a non-wildcat conversion for the Marlin 1895. The .45-90 is more than a quarter inch longer than the .45-70 allowing the powder capacity necessary to achieve muzzle energies upwards of 4,000 ft-lbs in modern firearms. These high pressure loads are referred to as ".45-90 Express" and are not safe for use in Marlin lever action rifles manufactured prior to 1948 (nor any other non-modern .45-90 firearm). The .45-90 Express is the most powerful conversion available for the .45 caliber Marlin 1895 that does not require a replacement barrel. The .45-90 conversion involves modifications to the action that increase the bolt travel and action timing (to adjust when a round is ejected, and when a new round lifts to enter the chamber), and the chamber in the barrel is reemed to .45-90 Sharps."

So in other words: Yes. It's a conversion gun, I.E. not manufactured in 45-90. That's cool, I know the 1895 is capable of some big boy rounds.

[bottlerocket]

So in other words: Yes. It's a conversion gun, I.E. not manufactured in 45-90. That's cool, I know the 1895 is capable of some big boy rounds.

Yea definitely a conversion apparently from a 45-70 336 I'm guessing, Wiki is kinda vague. All I know is even for a lever my Marlin is pretty light, I wouldn't wanna shoot a 45-90 from one, or even a 45-70

[ThreeFingerPete]

Yea definitely a conversion apparently from a 45-70 336 I'm guessing, Wiki is kinda vague. All I know is even for a lever my Marlin is pretty light, I wouldn't wanna shoot a 45-90 from one, or even a 45-70

My 45-70 with factory loads is a kitten. With some hot rod stuff? Not so much.

[Nash B.]

I just ordered a RRA .458 SOCOM upper, 100 pieces of brass, 200 bullets, and dies. I already have a bunch of H110, Lil Gun, and large pistol magnum primers. Can't wait.

[momo]

I just ordered a RRA .458 SOCOM upper, 100 pieces of brass, 200 bullets, and dies. I already have a bunch of H110, Lil Gun, and large pistol magnum primers. Can't wait.

gotta love 4 am purchases!
you've gotta quit drinking and watching HSN

[CJ]

You are right! cheapest ammo I can find is 51.00 per 20 rounds. I will scoop the brass up and reload. 350gr lead is about 1 buck per round! LOL

I found RCBS dies, so now stock up on powder! Any idea how many reloads per brass I can get C-J?

with that small of a neck, probably 10-15 per case.

[Bassics]

Do you guys shooting high pressures have any issue with primer pockets loosening long before the top of the cartridge wears out?

I have that issue with my 454 brass, seems like 5-7 loads and the primer is almost insertable with your thumb. I almost bought a cup anvil to reshape them at one time but that deal fell through and rules changed on me so less loading.

[CJ]

Do you guys shooting high pressures have any issue with primer pockets loosening long before the top of the cartridge wears out?

I have that issue with my 454 brass, seems like 5-7 loads and the primer is almost insertable with your thumb. I almost bought a cup anvil to reshape them at one time but that deal fell through and rules changed on me so less loading.

A lot of it has to do with the quality of your brass, and it's tension. I've found starline brass to reload almost twice as long as pickup.

[Bassics]

I always start with new SL. I find nickel is a little bit more susceptible to mouth cracks but so slight it could be all perception. But both stretch the pocket.

I have some win and hornady from factory ammo, but I've loaded them so seldom i can't count them. The Hornady seems to be tougher.

It all depends on the loads as well. I use to shoot 4 loads, so some got consistently lighter charges and some heavier by random chance. I used to average 400/month. some months double, some none, depending on the ihmsa schedule. I went through some brass over time.