Horrible Ohio LEO encounter with CCW

[kingjason]

There were 2 officers that I worked with that I would tell "disregard" every time dispatch sent them as back up. I knew I was better off without them. lol

This is a true statement in any department.

[slow06]

I've never been pulled over with my weapon on me but I promise you that's going to be the first thing I say to the officer, no way I'm going to be polite and let this kind of crap happen to me. I'll be respectful to the officer, but I'm not going to sit there with a weapon and not say something, even if he orders me not to speak. Call me crazy, but even if he ordered me not to speak I would think he would appreciate that fact that I made it a point to inform him.

I should execute you...for being stupid. Wow. I'm speechless on that one.

[ceyko]

If you read the thread on Ohio CCW, the driver's attorney posted that the prosecutor offered to drop all charges if his client would sign a waiver of liability so the city couldn't be sued. I think that says quite a bit about how much the driver did wrong.

Great, now I gotta spend an hour reading a long ass thread. lol

Assuming I was doing no wrong, I probably would not fold on it.

[kingjason]

1. Who the fuck climbs into the back seat of a car and searches it with the driver behind the wheel?
2. The driver was up to no good and had plenty of time to tell the Officer he had a CC while he was searching the back of the car. So yeah he was a fuck tard.
3. The rant and the way the Officer handles the situation was totally out of control. FTP on this one.
4. I always ask people straight up if there is anything on them or in the car I need to know about when getting someone out of a car. Guns, knifes, drugs, hand grenands, weapons of mass destruction "knocks the edge off" LOL. I also tell them if they are honest about it I will work with them. If not well you know they get what they get. You know about 75 percent of the time they will tell you straight up. I am pretty sure that guy would have started with uh yeah I have a CC and a gun on me.

[Broncojohnny]

2. The driver was up to no good and had plenty of time to tell the Officer he had a CC while he was searching the back of the car. So yeah he was a fuck tard.

You have no idea if he was "up to no good" or not. Neither do I. Why act like you do?

And the officer never should have been searching the car while the driver was inside of it. It isn't secure. I'm not even a cop and I know that. If the driver would have really been a "bad guy" that officer would be in a box.

The very worst you can say is that the driver was timid and should have asserted himself. That's it.

[bcoop]

4. I always ask people straight up if there is anything on them or in the car I need to know about when getting someone out of a car. Guns, knifes, drugs, hand grenands, weapons of mass destruction "knocks the edge off" LOL. I also tell them if they are honest about it I will work with them. If not well you know they get what they get. You know about 75 percent of the time they will tell you straight up. I am pretty sure that guy would have started with uh yeah I have a CC and a gun on me.

What does that mean exactly? The part about if they are honest you will work with them...

[kingjason]

You have no idea if he was "up to no good" or not. Neither do I. Why act like you do?

And the officer never should have been searching the car while the driver was inside of it. It isn't secure. I'm not even a cop and I know that. If the driver would have really been a "bad guy" that officer would be in a box.

The very worst you can say is that the driver was timid and should have asserted himself. That's it.

OK OK he had reasonable suspicion to believe the guy was up to no good. Late night, someone standing next to the car, someone in the back seat, known working girl.

[kingjason]

What does that mean exactly? The part about if they are honest you will work with them...

Officer discretion. Not everyone deserves to be filed on for every little crime. Right? Kinda like dumping out beer, small amounts of weed, etc. WMD I may have to deal with though. Uhhh yeah sir I have a nuke in the trunk might cause for concern.

[Broncojohnny]

OK OK he had reasonable suspicion to believe the guy was up to no good. Late night, someone standing next to the car, someone in the back seat, known working girl.

I'd agree with that. It is hard to say without being there and seeing the guys face but based on the tone of his voice I tended to believe him about the street sweeper job. Those were the only words that came out of his mouth with any sort of conviction.

[kingjason]

I'd agree with that. It is hard to say without being there and seeing the guys face but based on the tone of his voice I tended to believe him about the street sweeper job. Those were the only words that came out of his mouth with any sort of conviction.

Have you ever tried to catch a street sweeper at night? They roll hard and fast and I highly doubt they would stop for some yahoo in a car. I will say he would have gotten points for originality. LOL

[bcoop]

Officer discretion. Not everyone deserves to be filed on very every little crime. Right? Kinda like dumping out beer, small amounts of weed, etc. WMD I may have to deal with though. Uhhh yeah sir I have a nuke in the trunk might cause for concern.

Was just curious. You hear it all the time, but they still end up getting prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

[kingjason]

Was just curious. You hear it all the time, but they still end up getting prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Nahhh not all the time depends on the Officer. There are plenty of us Officers that live in the real world and believe in second chances. I was young and did plenty of stupid shit when I was a kid.

[Venix]

I have to say, that Officer was a moron. The tone he was using, the way he was acting, the words he used. Threats are illegal no matter who is saying them, badge or not.

Maybe he was having a bad night, but I think he just had a pine-cone up his ass about being a cop.

[Blackout]

I think that the guy was stupid and shouldn't be carrying a gun if he can’t play the game right.

I think lack of experience might have played a part as well due to the fact he had only had a CCW for a little over a month. I don't blame the cop for getting pissed. I would be pissed to if I had just found out that I could have gotten myself killed due to my retarded actions. but the way he handled it was completely out of control his partner should have pulled him back and told him to calm the fuck down.

that’s probably what caused all of this. the gun owner didn't react and say to the office "I have a gun" as soon as the cop got in the car.
one of the officers should have removed him before entry to the car nuff said on that.
and the jackass cop who went crazy probably just had a burst of adrenalin when he found out the guy had a weapon on him and he was completely exposed to a head shot.

[8mpg]

Last time I was pulled over, the trooper took my license and CHL permit... asked if I was carrying (I said yes) and he walked back to his car. No problems.

These cops should have
1. run the license plate
2. addressed the driver first
3. asked if there was weapons in the car.
4. not been a fucking douche
5. been fired