Cool double post bro. Oh, and 45 the 45 super argument is valid. The HK usp goes above and beyond what it was designed for. I bet a factory Glock 21 could not shoot 45 super.
You supply the ammo because I don't want to ruin my beautiful Starline brass, and you're on.
I think they are in the middle of testing a Glock 17 now.
50,000 rounds
1 stoppages 1 (*) malfunctions 1 parts breakages
Dohctr, If the gun will shoot .45 super then that is what it was designed for
Manufacturers such as Heckler & Koch (USP and HK45), and Springfield Armory, Inc. currently offer pistols rated to fire .45 Super ‘out of the box’.
So again your argument is not valid unless Glock rated the 21 to shoot .45 super and then it fails. hypothetically lets say you are right your H&K is more reliable than a Glock. When my Glock breaks I will then use the other Glock that I bought with the left over money I did not spend on the H&K.
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those
who vote for a living."
Dohctr, If the gun will shoot .45 super then that is what it was designed for
Manufacturers such as Heckler & Koch (USP and HK45), and Springfield Armory, Inc. currently offer pistols rated to fire .45 Super ‘out of the box’.
So again your argument is not valid unless Glock rated the 21 to shoot .45 super and then it fails. hypothetically lets say you are right your H&K is more reliable than a Glock. When my Glock breaks I will then use the other Glock that I bought with the left over money I did not spend on the H&K.
Who gives a fuck about how much it costs? It is only money, and this comparison is about reliability and which is the finer pistol, not which costs less.
Its like this. A new m3 costs nearly twice as much as a new mustang GT and performs comparably, but it is a hell of a lot better of a car, it is more exclusive, has more frills, and is cooler
Originally posted by lincolnboy
After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
Its like this. A new m3 costs nearly twice as much as a new mustang GT and performs comparably, but it is a hell of a lot better of a car, it is more exclusive, has more frills, and is cooler.
So is that what this is about Justifying The money you spent?
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those
who vote for a living."
Whoever loses, the winner gets to use the losing gun as a target. So, if you're confident enough that you H & K will work as well as the glock when thrown into the sand, water, mud, and whatever else, then let's go...
It's only money, so you can buy a new pistol after I FUBAR yours with my 10mm...
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776
lots of people have shot 45 super out of factory glock 21's .
It is not recommended due to the less than total case support but I've never heard of any problems.
Most people definitely do not recommend it without a simple spring change.
Most get at a minimum the steel guide rod and heaviest spring (like 22 or 24lb I believe).
If you're smart you get a new barrel that is fully supported too.
As I understand it the HK is a fully supported chamber from the get go, so that is a design difference . The G21 was NEVER meant to shoot 45 super, anyone who says otherwise is a fucking idiot.
I really wanted to blast a pig with my g21, but really it necessitated too much.
Expensive ass 45 super ammo since I don't reload
aforementioned SS guide rod and spring swap
wolf barrel 6" for slightly better velocity
and making up to 50 yard shots.
So ..... I gave up. I wanted it to be a cheap pistol, can't throw 200 more bucks at a 400 dollar used gen one G21 and say its cheap.
Otherwise I wouldn't have offered to practically destroy if for forum amusement!
LOL , let's do this. Someone name the test, and I'll do it with video.
I'd say the most likely to fail is JHP's. Maybe not, I just don't want to pay for a buttload of JHP ammo to prove a point I already know has been proven by others online.
"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."
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