Glock beat down: guy abuses a G21 mercilessly

[Jose]

Not going to start any sort of argument but I typed HK USP Jam into google and youtube and came up with some hits. Granted I can't watch the videos here at work because Ironport blocks them but I'll check them out at home. I've shot both Glocks and USP's and like them both.

Looks like I was real slow to the draw there posting up essentially the same thing.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

I had my HK usp .45 jam when cycling FMJ and Defense ammo together when I was shooting at someone breaking into my house. So, I cannot say I trust an HK with my life although I think theyre fine guns, just waaay over priced

Any reason for mixing FMJs in?

[Moose242]

I had my HK usp .45 jam when cycling FMJ and Defense ammo together when I was shooting at someone breaking into my house. So, I cannot say I trust an HK with my life although I think theyre fine guns, just waaay over priced

I had my Glock 21 jam when I was doing a glorious spinning dive roll from a helicopter on Christmas Day trying to save orphans being held captive by terrorists in a burning building.

[Mr_Fiux]

That is a very old test.

I challenge anyone with a glock 21 to go toe to toe with my USP 45.

Also, for the hell of it I typed in "Glock Jam" on youtube and a shitload of videos came up. I typed in H&K jam and couldn't find any

This too, my USP is the only pistol I have (for now) and I have also never had a single jam to date. The barrel has over 2k rounds through it from my ownership.

[Venix]

Not to call anyone out, but....

If there are millions of Glocks in owners hands, and only thousands of H&Ks, would common sense not dictate that there would be more information on the item with more owners?

I own several Glocks and have never had a single issue. Does that mean that no one ever has had an issue? I also own several S&Ws, and have had ton of jams, and double feeds. Does that mean that all S&Ws are junk?

Again, not trying to throw ya under the bus.

[DON SVO]

I have had glocks jam on me with factory ammunition. My USP and p30 never have. I carry my p30 at all times, and I would not carry a glock.



That guy knew exactly what he was looking for in that test. I have dropped my USP 45 in the mud while hunting before and it emptied a magazine just fine.

He tested the weapon's ability to operate in the harshest of conditions, and obviously exceeded the original testing requirements Glock went through initially.

In short, I highly doubt that your 45 got a lot of sediment into the chamber simply being dropped in mud. Conversely, I think that a USP is a better pistol than the HK, but the guy's tests were definitely apples to apples.

[Jose]

My point was that you can find a whole lot more hits if you run a search for "glock jam"

Because there are more Glocks sold and in use than H&K's.

Price is irrelevant in the comparison. I say we test for accuracy, reliability, and then each run 100 rounds of 45 super through our respective pistols.

And yes, I said super... not +p. Ill bet the glock makes it through a mag or two before it goes grenade.

Really? What kind of test is that? Were talking about reliability and your trying to throw in a cartridge that (as far as I know) isn't supported by a Glock 21.

[ELVIS]

My point was that you can find a whole lot more hits if you run a search for "glock jam"



Price is irrelevant in the comparison. I say we test for accuracy, reliability, and then each run 100 rounds of 45 super through our respective pistols.

And yes, I said super... not +p. Ill bet the glock makes it through a mag or two before it goes grenade.

im not that great of a shot, but i can hit center mass with no troubles. are you adding in special circumstances now? 45super? i purchased a .45 because i shoot .45 not to mention i am not going to pay $1/round to prove my glock works just as well as your HK.

god bless.

[2cammer97]

It amazes me that a Glock can go through that kind of abuse and function yet I've seen numerous videos and articles online demonstrating the frequency of jams with limp wresting or attaching a simple light to the rail.

I liken that testing to never changing oil on a car and seeing how long it would perform. Point being, it's irrelevant for most people, myself included. Most quality firearms can handle normal abuse like being dropped, getting dirty, etc.

I'm not a Glock hater but not a fan either. I trust my Beretta and Sig will fire when I need them to. Like cars, to each their own.

Marcus

[Venix]

im not that great of a shot, but i can hit center mass with no troubles. are you adding in special circumstances now? 45super? i purchased a .45 because i shoot .45 not to mention i am not going to pay $1/round to prove my glock works just as well as your HK.

god bless.

Agreed.

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/45-Auto-Plus-P-185gr-CORandregBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD45185-20/100/Product

That is prob the best .45 ammo out there for CC. I think that there are a few right up there with it, but that's a good one.

[Nash B.]

Price is irrelevant in the comparison. I say we test for accuracy, reliability, and then each run 100 rounds of 45 super through our respective pistols.

And yes, I said super... not +p. Ill bet the glock makes it through a mag or two before it goes grenade.

I've put a few hundred .45 Super through my Glock 21 (with Lone Wolf barrel and aftermarket guide rod/spring). It's still ticking.

[ELVIS]

I've put a few hundred .45 Super through my Glock 21 (with Lone Wolf barrel and aftermarket guide rod/spring). It's still ticking.

must be a HK guiderod.

god bless.

[GSXRK5]

I had my Glock 21 jam when I was doing a glorious spinning dive roll from a helicopter on Christmas Day trying to save orphans being held captive by terrorists in a burning building.

Now i know you're lying because you put Christmas day! No one works on Christmas day.....

On a serious note the only thing it'll come down to is the shooter. Doesn't matter how bad ass your gun is if you can't use it. HK and Glocks are both good guns.

[Jose]

Any reason for mixing FMJs in?

Some people believe that mixing FMJ's and JHP's give them a mix of both penetrating bullets and expanding defensive ammo.

[ceyko]

Oh boy, here we go with this kind of thread.

The are both fine weapons, why must we argue? lol People have already made their decisions (at least most of us in this thread) and are not going to be swayed.

I carry a G19, love it and have zero issues. People I respect in this gun world love them, some hate them. HKs are bad ass guns, if I had one I'd still carry the 19 due to loving it and familiarity. It's about the only handgun I can shoot accurately. Every gun I've used since it looks like it does when I sneeze on my windshield. Spatter all over the place.