what would have happened to me?

[03trubluGT]

Neither is on or about your person, while in the vehicle:

I was going for the safest answer I could.

I would hope it wouldn't be legal for a cop to order you to break the law.

I do it all the time. Say an accident is blocking a lane. I can direct traffic contrary to existing traffic control devices.

See, it's not always black and white.

[Nash B.]

See, it's not always black and white.

Yeah it is. Texas Transportation Code has about 30 instances with the exception "unless otherwise directed by a police officer."

[KBScobravert]

I would hope it wouldn't be legal for a cop to order you to break the law.

Kind of like being drunk in a privately owned vehicle, getting stopped and having the car towed now makes you intoxicated in public. PI is one I will never agree with but there have been many cases here on the board.

[GhostTX]

You can carry concealed in your car without a chl, right? Can you not carry on your bike concealed without a chl? Just a hypothetical more than anything.

The way I read the law, without a CHL, you can carry the weapon concealed in the vehicle not on your person. Glovebox, dayplanner, center console, etc, but not on your person.

Bear in mind the Non-applicability of 46.15

PC 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries
on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club[B] if the
person is not:[/B]
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's
control; or
[B](2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned
by the person or under the person's control.[/B]
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly,
or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a
motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's
control at any time in which:
[B](1) the handgun is in plain view;[/B] or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor
that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section
71.01.

PC 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do
not apply to:
...
[B](b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:[/B]
(1) is in the actual discharge of official duties as a member of the
armed forces or state military forces as defined by Section 431.001,
Government Code, or as a guard employed by a penal institution;
[B](2) is traveling;[/B]
(3) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting activity
on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en
route between the premises and the actor's residence or motor
vehicle, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;
...
(j) The provisions of Section 46.02 prohibiting the carrying of a
handgun do not apply to an individual who carries a handgun as a
50 CCP Art. 17.292(1) TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS
participant in a historical reenactment performed in accordance with
the rules of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

IANAL

[Rick Modena]

Since you now don't need a CHL to carry a weapon in your vehicle, if you were stopped I would have told the officer I had fogotten my wallet, but here is all of my info. Also, I have a CHL, but I don't have a weapon "on" me.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS COP! In his perfect world of his mind (which BTW is skewed). You're messican ass would have been in the dungeon of the Kaufman county jail.
If you were pulled over, I would have told him that I left my wallet at home, but I know my DL number, also would have told him my vehicle was in my name. Let him dig the shit up, IF he then starts asking questions about my CDL, then answer his questions of where and when. My CDL instructor (ex-cop) said never give them any more info then they ask for, he said if you don't believe him to watch the show COPS, lmao! He was right on all accounts, remember, anything you say CAN and WILL be used against YOU in a court of law.

[grove rat]

the laws have changed H, now you must tell them that have a chl & are armed if you are armed when being pulled over/questioned by the cops

[Rick Modena]

Don't ask me any questions and I wont tell you any lies...

[Rick Modena]

the laws have changed H, now you must tell them that have a chl & are armed if you are armed when being pulled over/questioned by the cops

Yeah if you have your wallet with you, first thing I would have done is hide that bitch somewhere on my bike/vehicle. You get pulled over and you start giveing info about your gun and no wallet, after they arrest you, they will clear shit up at the station later, but for right now the revenue generating process must continue.

[SVT Lurch]

Kind of like being drunk in a privately owned vehicle, getting stopped and having the car towed now makes you intoxicated in public. PI is one I will never agree with but there have been many cases here on the board.

I don't want to be drunk in public, I want to be drunk in a bar. THEY threw me into public...arrest them.

[03trubluGT]

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS COP! In his perfect world of his mind (which BTW is skewed). You're messican ass would have been in the dungeon of the Kaufman county jail.
If you were pulled over, I would have told him that I left my wallet at home, but I know my DL number, also would have told him my vehicle was in my name. Let him dig the shit up, IF he then starts asking questions about my CDL, then answer his questions of where and when. My CDL instructor (ex-cop) said never give them any more info then they ask for, he said if you don't believe him to watch the show COPS, lmao! He was right on all accounts, remember, anything you say CAN and WILL be used against YOU in a court of law.

*shakes head*

Henry, you are a sad, paranoid man.

So, how much was your CDL class? Can you drive big rigs now???

[Nash B.]

I actually got paid $11.17 an hour while I trained for my CDL.