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    IN BRIEF :
    Iraq War Veteran, Jose Guerena, Killed by Arizona SWAT Team

    Tim Cavanaugh writes about the tragic killing of former US Marine, Jose Guerena, by a Pima County SWAT Team:

    Guerena, who joined the Marines in 2002 and served two tours in Iraq, was killed just after 9 a.m. May 5. Guerera had just gone to bed after working a 12-hour shift at a local mine when his home was invaded as part of a multi-house crackdown by sheriff’s deputies.

    Like enemy of the state Osama bin Laden, Guerena died with his wife close by. Widow Vanessa Guerena, who hid with her four-year-old son when sheriff’s deputies raided the home, fills in detail that has been slow to come from Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik’s office.

    Vanessa Guerena told reporters:

    "I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.

    The family’s 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena’s wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.

    Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.

    Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.

    Initially the Sheriff’s office told reporters that Guerena had threatened officers with a gun, but their story has since changed.

    Apparently one of the SWAT team’s deputies accidentally fired his gun, leading to confusion. Other deputies began firing on the home, where wife Vanessa and their four-year-old son hid in a closet. Jose Guerena was shot 60 times. Officers fired a total of 71 rounds into the home.

    Jose died while medics waited outside, prevented by the deputies from entering the home for over an hour after the shooting. They were not permitted to enter the home until they had already learned that Jose was dead.

    Jose Guerena was 26. He is survived by his wife Vanessa and their two sons. No drugs were found in their home, and the family had no criminal record. Indeed, the only record Guerena had was his military record. He survived two tours in Iraq, but could not survive our War on Drugs.

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    Shot 1 person 60 times? What was the PC for entering that specific home or did I miss it?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ceyko View Post
      Shot 1 person 60 times? What was the PC for entering that specific home or did I miss it?
      They were drug raids. What I am getting out of this story is he was probably a drug dealer or smuggler

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      • #4
        60 times... did they REALLY think that was necessary
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        • #5
          Messed up...

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          • #6
            This one kind of explained it a little better. The guy did have a gun. http://www.kgun9.com/story/14621212/...se-says-family

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            • #7
              I'm waiting to hear the fairy tales they come up with. Obviously we are dealing with top notch talent here, what with the accidental discharge of the weapon right off the bat. It's like they gave Barney Fife an Ar-15.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                This one kind of explained it a little better. The guy did have a gun. http://www.kgun9.com/story/14621212/...se-says-family
                Had a gun in his own home. Not exactly illegal and I hope the the wife sues the fuck out of the sheriff's office. I wonder if they even had a warrant. Someone comes in my house like that and you damn well bet I am grabbing my gun if I have time to react.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                  Had a gun in his own home. Not exactly illegal and I hope the the wife sues the fuck out of the sheriff's office. I wonder if they even had a warrant. Someone comes in my house like that and you damn well bet I am grabbing my gun if I have time to react.
                  Yeah, you are right. He had plenty of time to grab his rifle when they announced POLICE. Both storys seem fishey. I highly doubt the wife saw the swat members outside and thought oh look robbers! I like how you guys believe this garbage just because he is a vet? Heck that means I can go do whatever I want! Woohoo! It will be interesting to see what they found in his home and if he was indeed a drug smuggler.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                    Yeah, you are right. He had plenty of time to grab his rifle when they announced POLICE. Both storys seem fishey. I highly doubt the wife saw the swat members outside and thought oh look robbers! I like how you guys believe this garbage just because he is a vet? Heck that means I can go do whatever I want! Woohoo! It will be interesting to see what they found in his home and if he was indeed a drug smuggler.
                    The reason everyone immediatly sides with the vet has nothing to do with his military service. The last few years has seen a huge upsurge in in police violating civil rights so everyone is immediately suspicious anytime the police do anything. Add to that the fact that the story claims the entire family had nothing on their record besides parking tickets and it sounds like we probably have another case of police violating rights. Police deserve no leeway when it comes to citizens rights.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                      Yeah, you are right. He had plenty of time to grab his rifle when they announced POLICE. Both storys seem fishey. I highly doubt the wife saw the swat members outside and thought oh look robbers! I like how you guys believe this garbage just because he is a vet? Heck that means I can go do whatever I want! Woohoo! It will be interesting to see what they found in his home and if he was indeed a drug smuggler.
                      And your automatically assuming the police are justified?

                      They have no records of wrong doings and no narcotics were found in their house. If that doesnt scream "police fuckup" then I dont know what does.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lason View Post
                        And your automatically assuming the police are justified?

                        They have no records of wrong doings and no narcotics were found in their house. If that doesnt scream "police fuckup" then I dont know what does.
                        Where do you get that from? The wife said they had no drugs lol. The police will not say what was found in the house but it was "crucial" to their investigation. I also don't know where you got your "no records" bs. I didn't read that in both storys posted here. I am guessing you got that from wikileaks?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                          The reason everyone immediatly sides with the vet has nothing to do with his military service. The last few years has seen a huge upsurge in in police violating civil rights so everyone is immediately suspicious anytime the police do anything. Add to that the fact that the story claims the entire family had nothing on their record besides parking tickets and it sounds like we probably have another case of police violating rights. Police deserve no leeway when it comes to citizens rights.
                          Ok.... That is because if you are caught smuggling drugs into this country you stay in jail lol. Every drug smuggler has no record haha. The ones that do are locked up.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                            Where do you get that from? The wife said they had no drugs lol. The police will not say what was found in the house but it was "crucial" to their investigation. I also don't know where you got your "no records" bs. I didn't read that in both storys posted here. I am guessing you got that from wikileaks?
                            Well, they said his criminal history is only a few traffic tickets.

                            The other part of the story that just isn't adding up to me is this guy did two tours in Iraq and had his rifle pointing at them and said "I got something for you!" yet his safety was on.

                            I want to see what "crucial" evidence they found.
                            Originally posted by racrguy
                            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
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                            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                              I didn't read that in both storys posted here.
                              Really?
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