Untitled Ridley Scott Project ‘Prometheus 2’ Set for 2016

[mstng86]

So what was the deal with the guy that transformed into whatever the hell he was?

[idrivea4banger]

So what was the deal with the guy that transformed into whatever the hell he was?

Theres two ways the black goo affects it's host. The movie showed this. He was the product of it altering his makeup through the blood stream. In the directors cut of that scene he looks more similar to a xenomorph than what was shown; I wished they would have used this scene instead. The second was by ingestion and creation by "birth".

[zachary]

Theres two ways the black goo affects it's host. The movie showed this. He was the product of it altering his makeup through the blood stream. In the directors cut of that scene he looks more similar to a xenomorph than what was shown; I wished they would have used this scene instead. The second was by ingestion and creation by "birth".

Howd they make him look more like a xenomorph?? Have not seen directors cut

[idrivea4banger]

Howd they make him look more like a xenomorph?? Have not seen directors cut

Well it's more of an alternate/deleted scene, not director's cut. I miss worded. It's up on YouTube somewhere. I'll look for it in a bit.


Can't find the actual scene but this shows stills from it and you kind of get an impression as to how the goo alters the physiology of its host.

[BLAKE]

Summary: If you didn't like the movie, you didn't get it bro.

Hahah, it had less to do with "not getting it" and a lot more to do with lame characters and questionable motivation. I don't have time at the moment but this is a fun debate. I'll jump back into this thread later with more specifics.

[jluv]

Hahah, it had less to do with "not getting it" and a lot more to do with lame characters and questionable motivation. I don't have time at the moment but this is a fun debate. I'll jump back into this thread later with more specifics.

When you say questionable motivation, are you hinting at possible religious messages or something along those lines?

Many people have made mention of that, but from what I've read, they actually changed/deleted parts of the movie to avoid those kind of connections being made. Heck, they even changed the name for that reason. It was originally going to be titled Paradise.

Heck, maybe you're talking about something totally different.

As for characters, if your standard is the Star Wars franchise, how could anything ever compare, except maybe The Muppets?

[BLAKE]

So the Engineers seed primordial Earth with the building blocks of life only to target it for destruction by xenomorph because... ?

When pressed, Elizabeth's proof of her theory and the justification for this whole expedition is "it's what I choose to believe". Really?

Every other Alien movie is based on people thrust into a position they are not prepared for and the first person who says "let's get the fuck out of here" is the one who lives. In this one, they're just poking aliens with a stick.

The biologist/geologist idiots: the biologist is crapping his pants (scared) when he sees an alien corpse, but when a cobra vagina is actively threatening him it's like he's petting a kitten.

Thematically, it seems like there should be a parallel between David and his creators (humans) and us and our creators (engineers) and it totally drops the ball.

There's a millennium-old engineer head and they plug it in and poke it with science and it talks then explodes? WTF

Was anybody surprised that Charlize Theron was Wayland's daughter. If so, how?

They make all these amazing discoveries and red heads doof husband is going emo because he doesn't get to talk to aliens?

Oh yeah, and red gets a half ass C-section and gets stapled together and spends the rest of the movie running? I couldn't suspend disbelief on that one.

Lastly, I just didn't like Noomi Rapace (sp?).

[BLAKE]

When you say questionable motivation, are you hinting at possible religious messages or something along those lines?

Many people have made mention of that, but from what I've read, they actually changed/deleted parts of the movie to avoid those kind of connections being made. Heck, they even changed the name for that reason. It was originally going to be titled Paradise

Eh, that didn't really bother me.

As for characters, if your standard is the Star Wars franchise, how could anything ever compare, except maybe The Muppets?

I don't understand the point you're making here.

[idrivea4banger]

So the Engineers seed primordial Earth with the building blocks of life only to target it for destruction by xenomorph because... ?

When pressed, Elizabeth's proof of her theory and the justification for this whole expedition is "it's what I choose to believe". Really?

Every other Alien movie is based on people thrust into a position they are not prepared for and the first person who says "let's get the fuck out of here" is the one who lives. In this one, they're just poking aliens with a stick.

The biologist/geologist idiots: the biologist is crapping his pants (scared) when he sees an alien corpse, but when a cobra vagina is actively threatening him it's like he's petting a kitten.

Thematically, it seems like there should be a parallel between David and his creators (humans) and us and our creators (engineers) and it totally drops the ball.

There's a millennium-old engineer head and they plug it in and poke it with science and it talks then explodes? WTF

Was anybody surprised that Charlize Theron was Wayland's daughter. If so, how?

They make all these amazing discoveries and red heads doof husband is going emo because he doesn't get to talk to aliens?

Oh yeah, and red gets a half ass C-section and gets stapled together and spends the rest of the movie running? I couldn't suspend disbelief on that one.

I'm just running through this by memory, but I've got more.

I haven't seen it in a while but it indirectly implied that an engineer was sent to earth to see how their experiment had progressed. Now here's where it gets tricky, Ridley Scott wasn't trying to intentionally give the idea that there was a connection between "Jesus" and the "engineer" but when the crew boarded the ship, the carbon dating they did pointed to a specific time in human history. The supposed crucifixion of christ. The engineer sent to earth at that time represented this "image". The humans destroyed him, the other engineers felt that humanity held themselves high above others. That's the reason for the ship being sent on course to earth with all the canisters. Of course it never made it because of the outbreak. When David wakes up the last engineer he continues his with his mission to end humanity after he sees that humans have now created other beings in their own image. To the engineer this is blasphemy because they are the ultimate creators not the humans.

[BLAKE]

Well that sounds like some sanctimonious crap, but at least if they had explained that it would've been something.

[talisman]

Eh, that didn't really bother me.



I don't understand the point you're making here.

I think he is saying the acting in the Star Wars movies sucks. Kind of a hard point to argue, really. Don't burn my house down.

[BLAKE]

I think he is saying the acting in the Star Wars movies sucks. Kind of a hard point to argue, really. Don't burn my house down.

A lot of it sucks, but there's good stuff too. I don't think the acting in Prometheus sucks, necessarily. I just think the characters suck. You certainly can't ding Star Wars on characters.

[talisman]

A lot of it sucks, but there's good stuff too. I don't think the acting in Prometheus sucks, necessarily. I just think the characters suck. You certainly can't ding Star Wars on characters.

Honestly I don't remember much about Prom. I thought it was decent, but not something I'll watch again any time soon. I tried watching the original trilogy again recently and by the time Jedi was on I was screwing around on the internet not even paying attention. Han was the only character I really enjoyed watching. Luke should have made a sequel to Corvette Summer..

[BLAKE]

Han's one of the best for sure. At least in the first two.

[Rick Modena]

I think he is saying the acting in the Star Wars movies sucks. Kind of a hard point to argue, really. Don't burn my house down.

lol.