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  • #46
    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
    not sure why the big fuss on used game purchases. They are cutting out the Gamestops of the world and making it more like PC software always has been, now that you are required to keep the thing online.
    No no no. I am old enough to remember the golden years of PC gaming. Back when you installed and played a game through Dos, then gave the disc to all of your friends and they did the same. Back when a CD key could be used an unlimited number of times on an unlimited number of machines. The day that PC gaming became a DRM shit storm was November 16th, 2004, the day that Half Life 2 came out and used steam.

    Consoles held out for a long time, but they have finally succumbed to greed.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by JC316 View Post
      No no no. I am old enough to remember the golden years of PC gaming. Back when you installed and played a game through Dos, then gave the disc to all of your friends and they did the same. Back when a CD key could be used an unlimited number of times on an unlimited number of machines. The day that PC gaming became a DRM shit storm was November 16th, 2004, the day that Half Life 2 came out and used steam.

      Consoles held out for a long time, but they have finally succumbed to greed.
      I believe quake tried that first.
      Half of history is hiding the past.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by JC316 View Post
        No no no. I am old enough to remember the golden years of PC gaming. Back when you installed and played a game through Dos.
        3 1/2 floppy, you are my friend

        I remember those days
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        You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five in an eighteen-wheeler.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Gtracer View Post
          3 1/2 floppy, you are my friend

          I remember those days
          Pffft. The first game I played used 5 1/4" floppy disks.

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          • #50
            Shit I wrote my own game in basic!

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            • #51
              I think this would be ideal.

              Big picture warning:



              sigpic

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              • #52
                "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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                • #53
                  Everyone is being too vague about this, they need to step up and give a clear answer. I know what they are doing, they are testing the reaction to see if they going to get boned or not. How many gamers are we going to lose and can we make up that loss with used fees?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                    Everyone is being too vague about this, they need to step up and give a clear answer. I know what they are doing, they are testing the reaction to see if they going to get boned or not. How many gamers are we going to lose and can we make up that loss with used fees?
                    They'll say more at E3 hopefully.
                    Originally posted by Theodore Roosevelt
                    It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...

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                    • #55
                      Thanks for making my new xbox look like an early 90's Hewlett Packard desktop PC.

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                      • #56
                        For all the PS4 nuthuggers. http://m.gamespot.com/news/ps4-may-i...report-6408925

                        As far as the aesthetics of the new consoles, as long as it plays games and plays them well, who cares what the console looks like? Between that and it having an "unoriginal" name it sounds like a bunch of women in here.
                        "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                          I think this would be ideal.

                          Big picture warning:


                          I do not have a problem with this model, if that's how it's going to work.

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                          • #58
                            Right now there's far too much conjecture and speculation. It seems pretty clear that no one knows what the fuck they're talking about.
                            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                            • #59
                              Australia, Germany voice privacy concerns over Xbox1



                              The Australian and German officials are concerned with the "always on" camera and privacy policies of Xbox One.

                              Software giant Microsoft revealed in the unveiling of Xbox One is the console's always 'on' Kinect camera is being questioned by activities concerned with privacy. While Microsoft maintains that the company has "very, very good policies around privacy," it's a fact that the Kinect camera is always listening and watching even in a low powered state.

                              Microsoft exec Phil Harrison told Eurogamer that the Kinect camera does not collect personal information unless the user's "opt" into it even if it is still listening and watching.

                              "We take it very seriously. We aren't using Kinect to snoop on anybody at all. We listen for the word 'Xbox on' and then switch on the machine, but we don't transmit personal data in any way, shape or form that could be personally identifiable to you, unless you explicitly opt into that," Harrison said.

                              Australian authorities are concerned with this particular feature of Xbox. Time Vines, director of Civil Liberties Australia, recently told GamesFIX that he is concerned with the Xbox One and Kinect. He said that Microsoft will have to answer questions about its product that has the ability to listen and watch people all the time.

                              Vines stated, "people should have the ability to turn off the camera or microphone, even if it limits the functionality of the machine." He added, "of course, if Microsoft doesn't allow that [control], then people should vote with their wallets and skip the next Xbox."

                              German officials are alarmed as well by the spying capabilities of Xbox in households. Peter Schaar, Berlin's federal data protection commissioner also expressed concerns about the Kinect camera. He told Spiegel Online, "The Xbox One continuously records all sorts of personal information about me. My reaction rates, my learning or emotional states. These are then processed on an external server, and possibly even passed on to third parties. A person cannot influence what information is stored or deleted."

                              However, Microsoft defended its product claiming that the "always on" camera can be used for marketing research. Another Microsoft exec Phil Spencer hinted at some of the marketing implications that can come from Kinect's watchful eye. In the past, he painted a picture of a scenario where the Kinect camera can collect data for marketing purposes.
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                              • #60
                                So if I walk in front of my Xbox naked porn will pop up?

                                Sounds good to me.
                                "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

                                -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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