Apple is sacrificing quality

[Slowhand]

Just going to interject with this, but my HTC Titan running WP7 has been running flawlessly for a year now. I think the OS is entirely underrated so long as you don't want Android levels of fiddling ability and works far better as a minimalist/simple OS than does iOS.

[grove rat]

^really? hmm, might have to check that phone out

i am into the minimalist/simple OS for a phone which is why i like the iphone, but i am not a fan of thier current phones lacking the technology as the rest of the competition

[Slowhand]

^really? hmm, might have to check that phone out

i am into the minimalist/simple OS for a phone which is why i like the iphone, but i am not a fan of thier current phones lacking the technology as the rest of the competition

If I was getting a WP7 now I'd grab a Nokia Lumia, but right now all of the windows phones are essentially the same due to Microsoft being pretty strict about phone specs. WP8 is going to open things up a bunch on that front, though.

[red95gts]

I would hope WP7 is leaps and bounds better than WP6.5?

I have a Motorola ES400 running 6.5 as my work phone and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever been stuck with. Fucking awful in every conceivable way.

[Slowhand]

I would hope WP7 is leaps and bounds better than WP6.5?

I have a Motorola ES400 running 6.5 as my work phone and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever been stuck with. Fucking awful in every conceivable way.

It's as if the two came from completely different companies.

[Jose]

If I was getting a WP7 now I'd grab a Nokia Lumia, but right now all of the windows phones are essentially the same due to Microsoft being pretty strict about phone specs. WP8 is going to open things up a bunch on that front, though.

I wouldn't grab a new Windows Phone right now. From what I've been reading, current phones will not be compatible with WP8 when it comes out basically leaving all those users stuck with no way to upgrade.

I would hope WP7 is leaps and bounds better than WP6.5?

I have a Motorola ES400 running 6.5 as my work phone and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever been stuck with. Fucking awful in every conceivable way.

WP7 is way ahead of 6.5 (although I never had a problem with it myself).

[talisman]

My MacBook Air and iPhone 4 do everything I need them to do. Why people get so up in arms over what they perceive to be "better" than products other people like to use, I'll never understand. I'm jealous of the free time people dedicate to telling others that their personal opinion is wrong.

[90GT50]

I wouldn't grab a new Windows Phone right now. From what I've been reading, current phones will not be compatible with WP8 when it comes out basically leaving all those users stuck with no way to upgrade.

I spoke to a Nokia rep the other day about this, specifically the lumia and HTC radar. According to him, none of the wp7 phones out now will be able to upgrade to wp8, basically screwing anyone over with older software, kind of like anyone with 6.1 or 6.5 when 7 came out. If they wouldn't just abandon the phones with that software I think more people would buy them. Customers are always scared of buying something and having it become obsolete in a year or two, that's probably why I sell maybe 1 Windows phone for every 20 or 30 Android phones I sell. The wp7 phones are super easy to use, some of the menus are hard to figure out at times and they're a pain in the ass to transfer contacts to a lot of the times, but other than that they work well.

[GTBrian23]

I spoke to a Nokia rep the other day about this, specifically the lumia and HTC radar. According to him, none of the wp7 phones out now will be able to upgrade to wp8, basically screwing anyone over with older software, kind of like anyone with 6.1 or 6.5 when 7 came out. If they wouldn't just abandon the phones with that software I think more people would buy them. Customers are always scared of buying something and having it become obsolete in a year or two, that's probably why I sell maybe 1 Windows phone for every 20 or 30 Android phones I sell. The wp7 phones are super easy to use, some of the menus are hard to figure out at times and they're a pain in the ass to transfer contacts to a lot of the times, but other than that they work well.

Any word on when the WP8 phones will start hitting the market? I will be home from Afghanistan in August and will have to pick up a new phone.

[90GT50]

He was saying possibly late this year, or early next year.

[GTBrian23]

He was saying possibly late this year, or early next year.

damn, might have to find a cheap unlocked phone and wait til one comes out.

[spederman]

i just changed from the ip4 to galaxy nexus on verizon. my iphones battery blows this nexus out of the water. the nexus will be dead by 2 everyday, iphone goes until 7-8. same usage for both.

i was happy with my iphone i only upgraded for 4g. which i rarely have. when i do its great. but this phone loses service more than women lose keys. if the new iphone is 4g im going back to apple

X2, i have the galaxy nexus, and it sucks for battery life and keeping service. Its such a giant beat down when you NEED your phone working esp for business.

I have been seriously thinking about trying out the new iphone if 4g. Ive never had one or messed with one, but from what everybody says, its a really nice polished OS. The thing i hate about android is that there are so many freaking versions, on every different phone, and if an app isnt compatible with your version, your phone locks up and runs like shit. I hate having my phone lock up on me everyday , when it comes to even the simplest task. Does the iOS run smoothly in this aspect and not lock up or force re starts on your phone to get it running again?

[Slowhand]

I spoke to a Nokia rep the other day about this, specifically the lumia and HTC radar. According to him, none of the wp7 phones out now will be able to upgrade to wp8, basically screwing anyone over with older software, kind of like anyone with 6.1 or 6.5 when 7 came out. If they wouldn't just abandon the phones with that software I think more people would buy them. Customers are always scared of buying something and having it become obsolete in a year or two, that's probably why I sell maybe 1 Windows phone for every 20 or 30 Android phones I sell. The wp7 phones are super easy to use, some of the menus are hard to figure out at times and they're a pain in the ass to transfer contacts to a lot of the times, but other than that they work well.

Man, my contacts transferred way more easily than they ever did on my iPhone.

That said, I think the rest of what you said is pretty much spot on. It's somewhat frustrating that my phone won't be able to update, but I think it's still better than what Apple does with forcing upgrades onto devices that really can't handle the increased demands of newer versions of iOS.

[90GT50]

Man, my contacts transferred way more easily than they ever did on my iPhone.

That said, I think the rest of what you said is pretty much spot on. It's somewhat frustrating that my phone won't be able to update, but I think it's still better than what Apple does with forcing upgrades onto devices that really can't handle the increased demands of newer versions of iOS.

The cellebrite machine we use at work to transfer contacts never works well with any windows phones. Even with brand new out of the box lumias it gives an error message to update the firmware, every single time. :| That, and not being able to save contacts to sim is just as aggravating. And transferring from a regular sim to a micro sim is a giant clusterfuck. Those are my only gripes about the phone.

I did have an HTC hd7 for about a week. It managed to get stolen at work by a customer when I left it on the counter to go in the back to get something. I wasn't even mad that it got stolen to be honest.

[whitetrash]

X2, i have the galaxy nexus, and it sucks for battery life and keeping service. Its such a giant beat down when you NEED your phone working esp for business.

I have been seriously thinking about trying out the new iphone if 4g. Ive never had one or messed with one, but from what everybody says, its a really nice polished OS. The thing i hate about android is that there are so many freaking versions, on every different phone, and if an app isnt compatible with your version, your phone locks up and runs like shit. I hate having my phone lock up on me everyday , when it comes to even the simplest task. Does the iOS run smoothly in this aspect and not lock up or force re starts on your phone to get it running again?

i think mine has locked up maybe twice in a little over a year. there are a lot of apps that crash but the OS itself is pretty solid