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Rolling through a 36 hour tester. In terms of controlling the hunger and mental clarity the Snake Juice works. Very, very well. No hunger pangs and feel fine. Complete 180* from my distilled water fast last year. Going to break the fast tomorrow with a $20 Waffle House tab at 5am.
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I have no need fortunately to look further into the snake diet, but one item that Gasser mentioned back in post #89 is one thing I also do. That was in reference to apple cider vinegar (ACV) which I use mixed into water once a day in the evening, always only the raw, unfiltered variety.
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We need a snake diet thread!
I’m not going to watch the videos or give it a shot, but it’s interesting to read about other people doing it.
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Originally posted by KBScobravert View PostI am going to reserve my comments on Snaje Diet until a review from Don.
Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostUsing SS as an example, hes lost 6 lbs. A max of 2 of those are fat...the other 4 are a mix of water, waste and muscle. If he loses just 0.5 to 1 lb of muscle every single time he does an extended fast the consequences will add up quick.
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Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostUgh, normally I know better than to bother arguing with you, but in this case you're so wrong that it just has to be done. Religious zealots. Ok, so you don't believe that fat stores are there as a spare fuel tank for hard times?
And you don't think that you can use that all up by not eating? Thus some fat bastard can quite literally save his own life, by just fasting until all the fat was gone? I'm not making some attempt to strawman you, I'm just asking. So what exactly do you think that fat is? Just some kind of unfortunate disease?
Next, starvation. Ugh. Point your little mouse up to your top right and click in the google search bar. Return to this conversation once you have learned what the definition of starvation is. Here's a hint: Its not fasting if you're fat. Oh and here's some proof:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2018...ithout-eating/
This entire time my problem with the starvation method of weight loss is that you will lose muscle mass among other things.
Using SS as an example, hes lost 6 lbs. A max of 2 of those are fat...the other 4 are a mix of water, waste and muscle. If he loses just 0.5 to 1 lb of muscle every single time he does an extended fast the consequences will add up quick.
I also said that if all you care about is losing weight...then sure this diet is fine. So yeah some overweight alcoholic like you will see a big benefit. But anyone in shape better be prepared to sacrifice muscle going though this unless they're on the needle.
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I am going to reserve my comments on Snaje Diet until a review from Don.
I'm admittedly not in keto. I'm putting on weight I'm not happy with but my workouts have been better. I'm doing in 2 weeks what I used to do in 1 by breaking my days up to shorten my gym time but I'm getting stronger and have noticed an increase in muscle size. Size and increases I couldn't get in keto.
I've got 4 solid months of training before my next r&r so I'm going too keep the same pace for at least 2 months before scaling back calories and doing keto towards the end. May try Snake Diet. An office mate already ordered the stuff to do it.
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostAh you must be right. You know what...why dont you go ahead and post progress pics. Show me how much your superior knowledge has gotten you. You've gotta be in amazing shape because of how smart you are and how dumb I am right? Or is your diet only for obese people?
You guys are like religious zealots that refute everything with the bible...when the bible is the content in question.
And you don't think that you can use that all up by not eating? Thus some fat bastard can quite literally save his own life, by just fasting until all the fat was gone? I'm not making some attempt to strawman you, I'm just asking. So what exactly do you think that fat is? Just some kind of unfortunate disease?
Next, starvation. Ugh. Point your little mouse up to your top right and click in the google search bar. Return to this conversation once you have learned what the definition of starvation is. Here's a hint: Its not fasting if you're fat. Oh and here's some proof:
We can all get a bit hungry if it has been hours since we last ate. But spare a thought for how hungry Angus Barbieri must have been after he went 382 days without eating. That’s not a typo. In 1965, 27-year-old Angus really did fast for one year and 17 days. He ate no food at all, and lost 125 kilograms (19.7 stone). Angus was reportedly sick of being obese, and checked into the University Department of Medicine at the Royal Infirmary of Dundee weighing 207kg (32.5 stone). He told hospital staff he was ready to cut out food together, so doctors happily agreed to monitor his progress. Angus’s doctors didn’t really expect the fast to last long. But they thought a short fast would help him to lose some weight. To compensate for his lack of nutrients, he was prescribed multivitamins to take regularly, including potassium and sodium, as well as yeast. As days turned to weeks, Angus’s persistence increased. The Scot wanted to reach his reported “ideal weight” of 180 pounds (12.8 stone), so he kept going, much to his doctors’ surprise. Angus would attend hospital visits frequently and often stay overnight. He received regular blood tests, all of which revealed his body was, remarkably, functioning just fine. As weeks turned into months, he compensated for his lack of food by drinking more black tea, black coffee and sparking water, of which all are calorie-free. His body began to adapt to the lack of food by burning its own fat stores for energy. For the last eight months, Angus’s blood glucose levels were consistently very low, around 2 mmol/l, but the Scot did not suffer any adverse effects as a result. In the final few months he began to have a pinch of sugar or milk in his tea and coffee. For those wondering, he ‘went to the toilet’ every 40-50 days. Angus eventually called it quits after 382 days, having finally reached his dream weight of 180 pounds. According to a Chicago Tribune report, he had forgotten the taste of food before his first meal after the fast. He ate a boiled egg with a slice of bread and butter for his first breakfast, telling reporters: "I thoroly [sic] enjoyed my egg and I feel very full." Five years later, Angus remained at a comfortable weight, weighing 196 pounds. Don’t try this at home This is an incredibly unusual case, and one of the most extreme examples of a starvation diet ever recorded. Because Angus was extremely overweight, his body was more prepared for a fast and to burn fat. But once the body has burned through its fat stores, it needs energy from food to function properly. For people of a normal weight, fasting for long periods can cause health complications, including increased strain on the heart, even with nutritional supplementation. Therefore, fasts of this length should not be attempted by anybody. They are from a time in the 1960s where long-term fasts were being studied with frequency, but there are other studies from this time where patients experienced heart failure and in some cases died of starvation. However, people with and without diabetes can experience benefits from fasting. Intermittent fasting, in particular, has shown to help the body repair damage without entering starvation, enabling an array of benefits, namely weight loss and reduced insulin resistance. Last year, American scientists revealed that short-term fasting also has health benefits for the heart. Fasting is not something that by done without great consideration though, and you should always consult your doctor before making a major dietary change. ')}
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Originally posted by The King View PostThe test of valid before/after pics in my opinion would be a before pic followed by an after pic five or so years later.
About 1/2" thigh reduction because of endurance training on a calorie restricted diet (hence my hatred for the piss poor starvation advice in this thread).
More shoulder definition because I moved a large portion of my cardio workouts from running to boxing.
As I've said many times...PEDs are an exception. I would expect anyone on hormone therapy to push the limits because they make more things possible.
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostNo the rest will be water, waste and muscle...most likely in that order.
Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostYou don't need progress pics when you stay consistently in shape...and I'm not trying to pass self starvation off as a good diet plan.
Originally posted by The King View PostThe test of valid before/after pics in my opinion would be a before pic followed by an after pic five or so years later. include some before/after blood work results too and make it even more valid.
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The test of valid before/after pics in my opinion would be a before pic followed by an after pic five or so years later. include some before/after blood work results too and make it even more valid.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostRight on. The rest will be muscle, right?
You first.
Yep. At 1.5mph, too. Exactly who are you again?
Let's say by 72 hours you're down 7lbs...and only 15% of that is muscle. You just pissed away 1 lb of muscle in 3 days because you were set on replicating the diet of a runway model instead of eating properly.
The next fad you jump on is certain to be a new form if bulimia...but maybe you can call it the owl diet so it feels new and healthy?
You don't need progress pics when you stay consistently in shape...and I'm not trying to pass self starvation off as a good diet plan.
I'm somebody who stays in shape and doesnt come close to 130 bpm while walking. I'm someone who actually has a good enough diet to not worry about cracking 130 bpm in the first place. I'm not a fad dieter for sure.
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostWell no more than 2lbs of that is fat...and that's being generous.
Post progress pics and measurements.
Lol at 130 HR while walking.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostHour 56 of fasting. Have lost 6lbs of pure muscle I'm sure. Have still been going to the gym, but regimen has been extremely light weight. Just going through the motions and maintaining the habit of going. Instead of running, am walking and keeping heart rate around 130.
With a massive sprinkle of inferiority complex thrown into the mix.
Lol at 130 HR while walking.
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