TRT. Who's on it?

[Tx Redneck]

Everything I'm reading says it's not terribly low, but it is lower than what's considered optimal. Granted, I do exercise less now than when that test was done, I was working at FedEx Express as a courier and worked the PM sort(unloading trucks and gettin packages/documents in the right place) as well as on a full vegan diet.

[Big A]

You may have trouble finding a Dr. to put you on TRT at 559, that's not all that low really. I'd be hesitant to do anything until it drops further, you'll be spending money and dealing with shots to not see much if any benefit.

Find a doc that's flexible though, and you can get that number to where you want it. Will make the asshole part worse, especially behind the wheel, but will definitely kick up the motivation.

Before going that route I'd take a serious look at your diet and exercise, I don't think your T level is causing any perceptible trouble.

As for dosing, I stay in the mid-700's on 260 per week, tested on the 7th day before getting a shot. It'll peak higher mid-week, but still under 1,000 I'm sure. That's not dangerously high Keith, but is a bit overkill if the goal is truly overall health. Interesting to see a lower dose have such an effect.

[Tx Redneck]

Admittedly, I've always been kinda skeptical of this whole testosterone levels thing, but I've not felt "right" in years. In 2018, I went to the Dr and got my levels checked, the results showed to be "within standard range" for Total testosterone of 250 - 1,100 ng/dL with mine being Testosterone, total 559 ng/dL. The free "range" is shown as 35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL with mine being 82.2 pg/mL.

I've been doin reading and lurking on this thread. What I've learned is those levels are that of a 64-74yr old man according to https://www.menshormonalhealth.com/n...ne-levels.html

I think I'm gonna get a second opinion, especially since I've really been fighting bein an asshole to everyone, not wanting anything to do w/most of the things I would normally wanna do, etc. Also having turned 40 last year, I imagine those level are even lower now. It could lend at least partial explanation to why I've felt "off".

[Baron Von Crowder]

Just got a wake up call. Had labs done yesterday. 5 days after 200mg and my T was over 1,500. Time to try a lower dose.

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wow

last time I blood tested I was at 800 monday after a 250 shot on tuesday. I've been doing 100mg twice a week, but bumped it slightly and ready to do labs again.

[KBScobravert]

Just got a wake up call. Had labs done yesterday. 5 days after 200mg and my T was over 1,500. Time to try a lower dose.

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[kingjason]

Bassically, I pay an upfront fee for a year. I have his cell phone number as well as his nurse's. He had a full spectrum blood test ordered, did a physical, and will treat me for anything that a PCP generally would. I text him/her with any questions I have, or need them to answer. If he wants to see me in the office, they schedule me in that day (or the next if it's after hours) or if it's just a need for a prescription, they call it in. I dont have to pay a copay, or any other fee to him after the initial payment.
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My buddy does this and has been trying to talk me into it. I really like the idea, and I think he will even come to you. I have a great doctor in Ovilla but I will absolutely not go to the doctor this time of year. There needs to be a waiting room for people with the damn flu and a separate waiting room for people with back, leg, foot, or whatever pain. I went one year for my back and this chick was in their coughing up a lung. Well I will be damned if I wasn't sick the next week.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Concierge doctor? what's that?


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Bassically, I pay an upfront fee for a year. I have his cell phone number as well as his nurse's. He had a full spectrum blood test ordered, did a physical, and will treat me for anything that a PCP generally would. I text him/her with any questions I have, or need them to answer. If he wants to see me in the office, they schedule me in that day (or the next if it's after hours) or if it's just a need for a prescription, they call it in. I dont have to pay a copay, or any other fee to him after the initial payment.

I was mainly tired of driving half an hour to and from the t clinic, and they had raised their rates to the point that his fee was a wash. I also am seeing a GI for a pain that has yet to be explained by scopes, camera pill, CT or MRI. The GI wants to see me to change prescriptions, and at $40 each copay, it was getting a bit costly to try several different medications one at a time. He's a text or call away for the next try.

[GeorgeG.]

I recently switched from the low t clinic to a concierge doctor. If you can find one in your area that is also knowledgeable on TRT, it might be worth it to you.

Concierge doctor? what's that?

I'm shocked a PCP even looked at you Testosterone levels.

I use T Off in Keller. I brought 2 years of labs to them and they let me self administer my shots. And my geographical disposition helps. Try T Off. Best thing I ever did was start seeing them.

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Well, I went in specifically for lab work since I was getting test by unconventional means. I needed to see what my numbers were to see if I need to adjust anything.

[KBScobravert]

Where's everyone going for their TRT? Looks like it's time to find a trt doc. My current PCP lectured me when I had a blood test done and he saw my T level was above 900. I'm hoping to find a Dr that'll eventually let me administer my own injection. I feel like total shit and need to get rid of the bitch tits.

I'm shocked a PCP even looked at you Testosterone levels.

I use T Off in Keller. I brought 2 years of labs to them and they let me self administer my shots. And my geographical disposition helps. Try T Off. Best thing I ever did was start seeing them.



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[Baron Von Crowder]

Where's everyone going for their TRT? Looks like it's time to find a trt doc. My current PCP lectured me when I had a blood test done and he saw my T level was above 900. I'm hoping to find a Dr that'll eventually let me administer my own injection. I feel like total shit and need to get rid of the bitch tits.

I recently switched from the low t clinic to a concierge doctor. If you can find one in your area that is also knowledgeable on TRT, it might be worth it to you.

[GeorgeG.]

Where's everyone going for their TRT? Looks like it's time to find a trt doc. My current PCP lectured me when I had a blood test done and he saw my T level was above 900. I'm hoping to find a Dr that'll eventually let me administer my own injection. I feel like total shit and need to get rid of the bitch tits.

[Big A]

This is a reason why I don't even want to bother even if I'm lower than normal, at least for now. I'm happy where I'm at gym wise. Haven't yet experienced any symptoms, so I think I'm just going to stay away from it for now. I'll get blood work done next physical when I turn 50.

This last go 'round I went in honestly expecting to verify that my test hadn't dropped much as I hadn't really noticed a change, but came to find that the change is so subtle that I simply hadn't noticed. Now that levels are coming back up I can definitely see where I had become a bit complacent, even uninterested in life to a point. I didn't see it as a problem, though I will say that I do feel a tad more alive in a positive sense, with more energy to chase our 3 year old around with, which I'm expecting to get better.

If it aint broke don't fix it, but you just may not be aware of what could be improved.

[SS Junk]

There's been so little change for me that if I'm not feeling noticeably better at the 6 month mark, I won't be wasting the time or money any longer.

This is a reason why I don't even want to bother even if I'm lower than normal, at least for now. I'm happy where I'm at gym wise. Haven't yet experienced any symptoms, so I think I'm just going to stay away from it for now. I'll get blood work done next physical when I turn 50.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Trt is juicing whether you want to agree or not.

You are artificially increasing your testosterone beyond normal levels. Will I consider it when I'm older? Hell yeah!!!! But im not going to pretend im doing it for any reason other than what everyone else who juices does it for.

Look at all the 55+ year old dudes at the gym unnaturally ripped. That's TRT more often than not...and it ain't natural.

Uh Juicing is HGH, or steriods.

TRT, or Testosterone Replacement Therapy is testosterone to replace that that is lost or low for whatever reason. So someone who naturally produces testosterone would be over what the "normal" range is, if they were taking testosterone. Someone that isnt producing it at a normal level doesnt really have any advantage over the person that makes it naturally by taking a dose that is within the same range.

[Big A]

Trt is juicing whether you want to agree or not.

You are artificially increasing your testosterone beyond normal levels. Will I consider it when I'm older? Hell yeah!!!! But im not going to pretend im doing it for any reason other than what everyone else who juices does it for.

Look at all the 55+ year old dudes at the gym unnaturally ripped. That's TRT more often than not...and it ain't natural.

That's just it, it's not beyond normal levels, the intent of TRT is to get a guy back to normal levels. I tested in the 800's a few years ago, came in at 300 when I started TRT a month and a half ago, and am now back in the mid 500's (with the goal being to get back into the 800's). There has been no performance increase, nor have I gained any weight. Just the opposite actually, I'm in a calorie deficit, slowly losing weight (about a lb per week), and strength is on a slight decline. All of the benefits are related to general health, and mental clarity/attitude, nothing monumental at this point, and I don't expect 800 ng/dl to be much different, nor will I be besting any PR's. That's my experience as a life long gym rat, the majority of men on TRT don't even lift, they do it to feel and sleep better.

Those dudes that are ripped at 50 put in the work, have a stellar diet, and have been in good shape their entire adult life. If they are ripped because of gear, they aren't on TRT dosages/T levels. Test-only cycles can absolutely pack on the pounds, but we are talking about dosages that are 5 to 10 times the amount per week.

There's been so little change for me that if I'm not feeling noticeably better at the 6 month mark, I won't be wasting the time or money any longer.