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    I'm trying to start running again, since I told the wife id do a mud run with her this year. I did some damage to my knees in football when I was younger and get a fair amount of pain when trying to run after about half a mile. Which would you reccomend to help?
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    Where does it hurt? It could be something a simple as a tight IT band which you can usually fix with a foam roller.

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    • #3
      I asked my knee doc the same question after surgery, his response was if it helps, do it.
      "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
        Where does it hurt? It could be something a simple as a tight IT band which you can usually fix with a foam roller.
        It's been awhile since I've tried to push it, but from what I remember all the way around my knees hurt. I had a 300+lb guy step on one calf and was chop blocked in the other.
        Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
        I asked my knee doc the same question after surgery, his response was if it helps, do it.
        So just try each a roll with it if one works was his meaning?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by whitetrash View Post
          It's been awhile since I've tried to push it, but from what I remember all the way around my knees hurt. I had a 300+lb guy step on one calf and was chop blocked in the other.


          So just try each a roll with it if one works was his meaning?
          My mother-in-law bought me a few knee brace things, sleeve, one with metal hinges, and a couple more that I tossed because they sucked when we went to Sea World a few weeks before my surgery. After walking for a few hours, mine would swell up and start to lock down. I was miserable, and she was trying to help. I screwed up both my knees playing hockey when I was in my early teens, and there was a bunch of scar tissue that they had to clean out.

          I took the two that were somewhat helpful to my followup, and asked him about using them. He said either would be fine, and if they are helpful, wear it. Im not a doctor, obviously, just sharing my particular experience.
          "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
            Where does it hurt? It could be something a simple as a tight IT band which you can usually fix with a foam roller.


            "Let's take the IT band, for example. Foam rolling is a commonly prescribed remedy for iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS). While religiously rolling out your IT band might feel good, "the idea that you are going to relax or release the IT band is a misconception," Hitzmann says. The phrase roll out your IT band itself makes it sound like you are rolling out a piece of dough, but your IT band is anything but pliable. It's a remarkably strong piece of connective tissue, and research has shown that it cannot be released or manipulated by manual techniques such as foam rolling. "If you iron out areas of inflammation, you can increase inflammation. And if you are in pain, your body will be too stressed to repair itself," says Hitzmann.

            The fix: Go indirect before direct. “If you find a spot that's sensitive, it's a cue to ease away from that area by a few inches. Take time and work a more localized region around areas that feel sore before using larger, sweeping motions,” suggests Hitzmann. For the IT band, work on the primary muscles that attach to the IT band first -- specifically the gluteus maximus (the largest muscle in the buttocks) and the tensor fasciae latae (a muscle that runs along the outer edge of the hip)."
            "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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            • #7
              How long lasting is the pain?

              Are we talking injury, or just hurting?

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              • #8
                Like a few others have posted/asked, is it a pain or just sore? If you are just starting out again it is going to hurt, you have to push through this. Hell I have been running again for a while and my knees/calves/shins/ankles are pretty consistently sore. When starting out work on intervals, not a long distance, solid run. That helps condition your body back into it's running form. Also look at your shoes. Make sure you have the right shoes for your running form. Incorrect shoes are probably the number one reason for injury.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4980975.html

                  "Let's take the IT band, for example. Foam rolling is a commonly prescribed remedy for iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS). While religiously rolling out your IT band might feel good, "the idea that you are going to relax or release the IT band is a misconception," Hitzmann says. The phrase roll out your IT band itself makes it sound like you are rolling out a piece of dough, but your IT band is anything but pliable. It's a remarkably strong piece of connective tissue, and research has shown that it cannot be released or manipulated by manual techniques such as foam rolling. "If you iron out areas of inflammation, you can increase inflammation. And if you are in pain, your body will be too stressed to repair itself," says Hitzmann.

                  The fix: Go indirect before direct. “If you find a spot that's sensitive, it's a cue to ease away from that area by a few inches. Take time and work a more localized region around areas that feel sore before using larger, sweeping motions,” suggests Hitzmann. For the IT band, work on the primary muscles that attach to the IT band first -- specifically the gluteus maximus (the largest muscle in the buttocks) and the tensor fasciae latae (a muscle that runs along the outer edge of the hip)."

                  Good point. I guess when I "roll my IT band" I'm really rolling with intent of fixing the pain, so I end up concentrating a lot on my super-tight hips, etc.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
                    Good point. I guess when I "roll my IT band" I'm really rolling with intent of fixing the pain, so I end up concentrating a lot on my super-tight hips, etc.
                    Yeah, I've heard rolling on the actual IT band is a bad deal. While not fixing the problem, it can actually cause damage to the band.
                    "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chopped54 View Post
                      Like a few others have posted/asked, is it a pain or just sore? If you are just starting out again it is going to hurt, you have to push through this. Hell I have been running again for a while and my knees/calves/shins/ankles are pretty consistently sore. When starting out work on intervals, not a long distance, solid run. That helps condition your body back into it's running form. Also look at your shoes. Make sure you have the right shoes for your running form. Incorrect shoes are probably the number one reason for injury.
                      It's pain. Occasionally locks up. Weather changes hve brought me to tears before from it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by whitetrash View Post
                        It's pain. Occasionally locks up. Weather changes hve brought me to tears before from it.
                        $10 on meniscus tear.

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                        • #13
                          I have a partial ACL tear, grade 2 MCL strain and 2 tears on the meniscus. The pain varies almost directly with the weather. Damn, I'm ready for the surgery already.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Denny View Post
                            I have a partial ACL tear, grade 2 MCL strain and 2 tears on the meniscus. The pain varies almost directly with the weather. Damn, I'm ready for the surgery already.
                            I'm going to Roye in Hachie on Thursday. Wife said he was well known and had a good reputation. His brother did my Bi Lateral Hernia surgery and his office co- worker Parrot did my heal a month ago. Hyperextended mine water skiing when I was 18. You know back in the days when they drained them 3 times. Progressively it has gotten worse and now starting to be constant. Luckily with my new insurance I can pick who ever I want to go see without being referred. I have told my primary care guy multiple times over the years and was denied a MRI. I am just ready to get it over with myself. Stairs and hard cuts while running screw with mine. I think racquetball caused a accelerated degeneration over the years since that when I would usually aggravate it. We are all turning into that commercial with the two old men standing next to the pool!
                            Whos your Daddy?

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                            • #15
                              I had two tears in my meniscus repaired in September. I also got fatter the past two years after having a new kid and then getting injured. I lost of all of last years exercise to the knee injury before finally succumbing to surgery. The MRI didn't even detect my tears because they were on the inside of my meniscus in the back part of the knee.

                              Sleeve or brace... fuck me neither really does shit for me. I've tried every soft knee brace I can find and I don't like any of them. The sleeve feels the best but it tends to collapse and ball up after a while running. Biking actually feels best on my knee. It warms it up and loosens it up. If I try running on a cold knee fuck that, but after biking it's almost possible.

                              If anyone has any wonder knee sleeve out there they know about I'm all ears.

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