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  • #16
    I would not say it's ALL ABOUT DIET, but dieting is at least half the battle, activity being the other half.
    Drop the alcohol with a quickness.
    If you think 2 times a week is not a lot, you really should quit kidding yourself.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by stangin4lyfe View Post
      I would not say it's ALL ABOUT DIET, but dieting is at least half the battle, activity being the other half.
      Drop the alcohol with a quickness.
      If you think 2 times a week is not a lot, you really should quit kidding yourself.
      90% diet, 10% training.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cannon View Post
        90% diet, 10% training.
        It's two fold.
        You can diet all you want, but with a natural slow metabolic rate, you are just going to be spinning your wheels without the other half of the equation.

        I've seen your posts before...
        Of course, I am referring to substance free training.
        Last edited by stangin4lyfe; 01-12-2012, 08:56 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by krazy kris View Post
          "So you're a dancer"(spirit fingers)
          "Those aren't spirit fingers..... THESE...are spirit fingers!"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Damnittsteve View Post
            i hit 300 i really need to start eating better, and does anyone near NRH want a workout partner? im on ALOT of meds and that is 95%why ive gained the weight, but if im gunna be stout guy i cant rely on my height making up the difference. im saying that my gut sticks out too much and i dont have the stamina i used to on physical tasks. anyway, im finally willing to put myself out to criticism and get on the right track. i really doubt i can lose any weight, but i now i can get alot more healthy.
            2nd sentence in and you're already making excuses. Excuses will be the death of your plan to lose weight. Cut the excuses and start exercising and reduce your calorie and fat gram intake.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by stangin4lyfe View Post
              I would not say it's ALL ABOUT DIET, but dieting is at least half the battle, activity being the other half.
              Drop the alcohol with a quickness.
              If you think 2 times a week is not a lot, you really should quit kidding yourself.
              Originally posted by Cannon View Post
              90% diet, 10% training.
              Originally posted by stangin4lyfe View Post
              It's two fold.
              You can diet all you want, but with a natural slow metabolic rate, you are just going to be spinning your wheels without the other half of the equation.

              I've seen your posts before...
              Of course, I am regerring to substance free training.

              He can lose weight with dieting alone, however, without the proper nutrition he will also lose lean muscle, which is what you want to keep. That's why it is always recommended to do SOME sort of physical activity while on a diet plan, so that you not only keep those muscles burning calories but also so that the muscle you have isn't deteriorating further.

              And I agree 1000%. No alcohol, period. If anyone wants to truly lose weight, they have to make changes and stick to them throughout the weight loss period. You can't just "kind of" be on a diet and/or exercise regimen. All that is going to do is likely just maintain your current weight.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by WildBill View Post
                I'd rather see him on a bike at that weight to help keep down the joint and back stress.

                Hey Dammit Steve. Do you have a bike? I've got 4 laying around that we could put new tires on and you'd have something. Let me know!
                I'd suggest walking over cycling. Cycling is great, but I see a lot of people just coasting or just barely peddling along when going down hill which equates to wasted effort to me.

                There's no way around walking and if you have an iPhone, you can use an app called RunKeeper that will track and log your distance/time.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GeorgeG. View Post
                  I'd suggest walking over cycling. Cycling is great, but I see a lot of people just coasting or just barely peddling along when going down hill which equates to wasted effort to me.

                  There's no way around walking and if you have an iPhone, you can use an app called RunKeeper that will track and log your distance/time.
                  There's plenty of routes with good grades where he's located.
                  I just don't want to add reasons for quitting due to joint injury with his weight.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Damnittsteve View Post
                    i hit 300 i really need to start eating better, ....
                    So what was for lunch today and how much water have you taken in so far?

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                    • #25
                      Drinking "about" twice a week still matters considering it's probably a bit more than that.

                      Secondly...light beer doesn't have many more calories compared to liquor if going by alcohol content. And if you're drinking shit like flavored patron and milk you sure as he'll would be better off with beer.

                      I'm not saying stop drinking because I drink and know you can stay in shape while doing so...but try just once a week tops on a cheat day, and drink smart. Even a shot of vodka will have enough calories to matter when adding them up.

                      Try walking, but diet is most important. If you can get into a weight lifting routine go for it, as that will eventually be critical to overall well being when you start slimming down.

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                      • #26
                        First, let me say I am sorry if any of this sounds like an ass, I have met Steve (both Steve's in the thread actually) and he is a nice guy. But come on, I hate reading threads where at first it seems like folks are waking up and realizing that they need to make changes, then they go on to basically tell you all the things they won't do/won't change/etc. You gotta want it, you have to give up stuff, you have to make serious lifestyle changes. Trust me, once you get into the rythem and notice how much better you feel and look, your motivation will only increase, then it's a snowball effect, you start looking better and feeling better which turns to you working hard which leads to looking/feeling better, etc. You just have to grind through it to get the wheels in motion.

                        Best of luck to you, quick drinking, count calories (which means weighing your food), and get active. you'll be shocked.

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                        • #27
                          "you're like 2 whole people"


                          "What should I do, doc?"


                          "You need to be less people"
                          Ded

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by stangin4lyfe View Post
                            It's two fold.
                            You can diet all you want, but with a natural slow metabolic rate, you are just going to be spinning your wheels without the other half of the equation.

                            I've seen your posts before...
                            Of course, I am referring to substance free training.
                            There's such a thing? I'm talking hydroxycut. I've got a moderate metabolism and just with diet I can lose a lot of fat. I've learned if I feed myself protein every two hours my body sheds fat. I know many guys I've trained in OPs position and what lacks the most with heavy guys is diet. When I train guys that have a high body fat percentage I suggest dieting a whole month before even hitting the gym. I find I deal with less injuries and since the weight has already started to come off they trainees are more motivated and put out harder. But I'm not saying that you can get satisfactory results without gym time it's just that I believe diet is key with anything.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                              .....
                              Best of luck to you, quick drinking, count calories (which means weighing your food), and get active. you'll be shocked.
                              I disagree with him needing to weigh his food. From the sounds of it, he's a long ways away from having to go to those lengths. It's not until you're needing to fine tune your diet to get rid of those last few % points of bf that you'll need to weigh your food.

                              Depending on his currect diet, he could probably just make healthier choices when it comes to meals and see a noticable decline in weight for several weeks before hitting his plataue.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                                First, let me say I am sorry if any of this sounds like an ass, I have met Steve (both Steve's in the thread actually) and he is a nice guy. But come on, I hate reading threads where at first it seems like folks are waking up and realizing that they need to make changes, then they go on to basically tell you all the things they won't do/won't change/etc. You gotta want it, you have to give up stuff, you have to make serious lifestyle changes. Trust me, once you get into the rythem and notice how much better you feel and look, your motivation will only increase, then it's a snowball effect, you start looking better and feeling better which turns to you working hard which leads to looking/feeling better, etc. You just have to grind through it to get the wheels in motion.

                                Best of luck to you, quick drinking, count calories (which means weighing your food), and get active. you'll be shocked.
                                Agreed 100%. As someone who has/is going through it. It's VERY hard in the beginning, but it does get easier. It took awhile to get heavy, so it's going to take awhile to get it off. But it is very possible with dedication.

                                The difficult part, is when you are starting, you're miserable cuz you are so heavy, then it gets even more miserable at first because you are so out of shape and sore. Carrying around the additional weight and training with it isn't easy. Now I'm addicted to it cuz I see how much better it feels to be lighter and I just want more of it. I will hit my goal weight of 200lbs this year, I no doubt in my mind what so ever.

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