Best way to do shoulders with dumbbells?

[jdgregory84]

Do a clean and press motion. Gonna be a little weird with the dumbbells obviously. Definitely better to have a spotter or two to help you get them in position. I also kind of want to know.......why? How is shoulder pressing 100lbs dumbbells going to help you in any way? I'm only asking because the shoulder is pretty much the knee of the upper body. You fuck it up once, it's probably fucked up for good. I say use a manageable weight, and just do more reps. Just my ignorant, non-too bulky for his own good-cop opinion.

[stangin4lyfe]

Do a clean and press motion. Gonna be a little weird with the dumbbells obviously. Definitely better to have a spotter or two to help you get them in position. I also kind of want to know.......why? How is shoulder pressing 100lbs dumbbells going to help you in any way? I'm only asking because the shoulder is pretty much the knee of the upper body. You fuck it up once, it's probably fucked up for good. I say use a manageable weight, and just do more reps. Just my ignorant, non-too bulky for his own good-cop opinion.

Big shoulders are made with heavy pressing weights.
Shredded shoulders are made with lighter secondary movements.

As for the weight, I rarely go up to the 130's mainly because of the spotter issues and as you said...the risk factor involved.
3 things I don't play with...knees, lower back, and shoulders!

[03trubluGT]

Being so tall, I too have the same problem.
Honestly... it's hard just finding someone to pick up the 130's and hand them to me, more or less spot me on them correctly.
I even purchased hooks, that I never really use anymore...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cp/ph.html

Do you do arnolds as well?

Never really done Arnolds for shoulders. This is pretty much my boring shoulder routine:

Warm up with stretches, then light dumbbells (I start with 30s and work my way up in 10lb increments)

Military dumbbell presses
upright barbell rows
front lateral dumbbells
side lateral dumbbells
heavy shrugs
seated machine military presses

[03trubluGT]

Do a clean and press motion. Gonna be a little weird with the dumbbells obviously. Definitely better to have a spotter or two to help you get them in position. I also kind of want to know.......why? How is shoulder pressing 100lbs dumbbells going to help you in any way? I'm only asking because the shoulder is pretty much the knee of the upper body. You fuck it up once, it's probably fucked up for good. I say use a manageable weight, and just do more reps. Just my ignorant, non-too bulky for his own good-cop opinion.

WTF???

Big shoulders are made with heavy pressing weights.
Shredded shoulders are made with lighter secondary movements.

As for the weight, I rarely go up to the 130's mainly because of the spotter issues and as you said...the risk factor involved.
3 things I don't play with...knees, lower back, and shoulders!

When you are able to lift the weight, but can't get it into position to do it, it is frustrating.

And for the record, the 24hour I go to only goes up to 120s.

[jdgregory84]

Im just giving you shit.

[03trubluGT]

Im just giving you shit.

Ahhhh. Shit taken.

[stangin4lyfe]

Never really done Arnolds for shoulders. This is pretty much my boring shoulder routine:

Warm up with stretches, then light dumbbells (I start with 30s and work my way up in 10lb increments)

Military dumbbell presses
upright barbell rows
front lateral dumbbells
side lateral dumbbells
heavy shrugs
seated machine military presses

Time for change then!
You really should give Arnolds a try sometime.
You will have to go much lighter, but they really light my shoulders on fire whenever I first get there!
They honestly take a lot out of me, hence why I do them first.

I do quite a bit more pressing movements than you though.

Presses
Arnold DB presses(4 sets)
Shoulder press machine(normal seated, pronated wide grip, 3 sets)
Shoulder press machine(reverse seated, pronated wide grip, lighter weight than previous set, 3 sets)
Shoulder press machine(normal seated, neutral grip, 3 sets)
Hammer strength free weight shoulder press(3 sets)
Free Motion cable press(4 sets)
Sometimes I will throw in some smith machine presses, but have not lately.

Supplemental
Rear DB shoulder raises on an incline bench(3 sets)
Reverse pec dec(3 sets)
Side DB lateral raises on an incline bench or free standing, arms pretty much straight, no swing(3 sets)
Front dumbell or barbell raises reversed on an incline bench(3 sets)

I do my traps VERY heavy(675lbs free weight) on another day.

[stangin4lyfe]

When you are able to lift the weight, but can't get it into position to do it, it is frustrating.

And for the record, the 24hour I go to only goes up to 120s.

I hear you there!
You just have to improvise is all.
Work with what you got and can do.
I'm always talking to others and watching others, wanting to learn from them.

Most of the 24's only go up to 110-120lb DB's, but we managed to convince the locations that I frequent to purchase 130's, 140's, and even 150's at our Western Center Location.
It always pays to be nice to the maintenance, managers, and personal trainers in general.

[VaderTT]

My shoulder workout goes like this.

Barbell Military Press
Lateral Dumbbell Raise
Rear Delt Row
Front Delt Raise
Lateral Dumbbell Raise
Rear Delt Row

Mon and Tues-- Low reps high weight
off Weds
thurs and fri----high reps low weight
off Sat. and Sun.

I'm still having trouble getting the heavy weights off my knees also though.

[jdgregory84]

It always pays to be nice to the maintenance, managers, and personal trainers in general.

Yup. We've been having a lot of people wanting to do crossfit workouts at our gym so we just ordered two heavy ropes, a second set of kettle bells, and two tractor tires. I think the tires are supposed to be in today.