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  • #61
    have you tried the hyperdrive hardcore?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by astang95 View Post
      have you tried the hyperdrive hardcore?
      No, i dont take any diet pills. I have to force feed.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
        Early morning cardio on an empty stomach and you will see the pounds peel off...your glycogen stores will be depleted and you will burn fatty acids for energy.
        Add a yohimbine hcl, l-tyrosine and caffeine stack to your fasted cardio and try lyle mcdonald's cardio methods.

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        • #64
          I met you and your man so if you remember me then you know I'm not fat. I just have fat on my mid section. I reduced my calories down to 1500 and have been doing 30 min cardio as well as abs and strength training. I'm takiing oxy elite pro, 2 in the morning and 1 6 hrs later. Am I going about this right for a 6 pack?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
            I met you and your man so if you remember me then you know I'm not fat. I just have fat on my mid section. I reduced my calories down to 1500 and have been doing 30 min cardio as well as abs and strength training. I'm takiing oxy elite pro, 2 in the morning and 1 6 hrs later. Am I going about this right for a 6 pack?
            hopefully she will chime in with a little more info, but no to knock your plan, but a well designed plan can't be summarized in 4 sentences. sarah is a guru and thanks to her i've got a pretty nice 6-pack, but it wasn't because of any fat-burners or simply eating x number of calories, it is designing a meal plan that you follow to the gram, weight training plan that you log weights, keep form, and make sure you are making improvements, cardio that actually works (not just a bunch of steady state bs for 30 mins).

            If you really want to get in great shape you gotta think long term and design a plan you are comfortable with doing for longer than a week, month, etc.

            Some real basics (again hopefully Sarah will chime in) that we implement:

            Seperate carbs and fats. Every meal has either protein/carbs or protein/fats, if it has a lot of carbs it doesn't have much fat and vice versa. Obviously you will be having more carbs/protein on training days vs. non-training days. Keep the protein/fats meals to a minimum (i.e. 1 or 2 of your 5 meals).

            Post workout you can eat some simple carbs with your protein but again, keep the fat to an absolute minimum.

            For training we currently lift 4 days a week, and we work upper body parts on mon/thurs and do lower body on tues/fri. We do cardio-type weight lifting early in the morning on leg days (we train at night) and traditional cardio on wed/sat.

            This is by no means the only way to do it, but it has def. worked very well for the two of us, it is a lot more complicated then what I have posted here, but the point I am trying to make is don't just say 1500 cals, 30 mins cardio, and 3 fat burners = six pack. Read up and design a real food, training, cardio plan and you'll get where you want to be.

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            • #66
              Well I went to get a book but I didn't want to buy(insert celebrity name here) guide to fitness and I'm afraid to follow the innerweb since not all is true. Hire a trainer? And not a 24 hr dirt bag

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              • #67
                Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
                Well I went to get a book but I didn't want to buy(insert celebrity name here) guide to fitness and I'm afraid to follow the innerweb since not all is true. Hire a trainer? And not a 24 hr dirt bag
                don't waste your time/money on a 24hr/la fitness trainer. i am sure there are a few good ones (one of my good friends is a trainer at la and knows his stuff), but they keep such a small % of what the gym gets per session that there is no motivation for them to really care and for the most part the trainers are all retarded anyway.

                sarah can chime in about having a plan developed specifically for you, it's def. not the cheapest route, but it is better then some pre-canned bs.

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                • #68
                  Don't take this the wrong way, I do like the way fat burners make me feel, I am just not convinced that they work well. The stack I mentioned is for fasted cardio, it is pretty well accepted in the weightloss community, there is a syngerestic effect when the compounds are combined.

                  If you have to take a fat burner for the energy I suggest the ECA stack.

                  1500 is way too low to start out with, starting that low will leave you no room to tweak as the results diminish, a good baseline is body weight x 10-12 for calories.

                  For cardio I'd start with 2x a week hill training for 45 mins.

                  If you want a plan the guy I've used (who has a wait list currently) is leanbodies consulting, Scott Abel is another highly recommended online trainer.

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                  • #69
                    Well tommorrow concludes a month of dieting,excercising and supplementing with oxy elite pro. I'm 5 ft 10 and starting weight was 190 and I currently weigh 173.5. So I've lost 16.5 lbs in 30 days. I didn't measure my body fat % but i'd argue it was between 15 and 20 and I know that's vague but I just don't know the number. I guess I'm trying to show I wasn't 400 lbs and lost 17lbs in a month or anything like that

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                    • #70
                      what do yall recommend for someone with limited mobility. Due to a bad leg with no ankle movement I can't run or ride a bike. I swim everyday for about 1 hour. and I need to drop alot of weight I really don't care if the diet supplements aren't the greatest for you as long as they work.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by krazy kris View Post
                        what do yall recommend for someone with limited mobility. Due to a bad leg with no ankle movement I can't run or ride a bike. I swim everyday for about 1 hour. and I need to drop alot of weight I really don't care if the diet supplements aren't the greatest for you as long as they work.
                        The meth-a-trim diet should work well for you. Just be sure to save up for some new teeth when you're done...

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                        • #72
                          Ok, so I've been taking the VPX Meltdown stuff for 2 months now - 4 pills a day. Im 6'4", started at 275, and im hovering around 254 now. I want to get down to 215ish. I eat healthy, and work out 4 - 5 times per week, alternating between upper body and then cardio. My legs don't need much. Any advice on what I should be using? I use the Body Fortress whey protein after workouts. Im in Little Rock, so availability is limited unless I order from online somewhere...

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by danielhv View Post
                            Ok, so I've been taking the VPX Meltdown stuff for 2 months now - 4 pills a day. Im 6'4", started at 275, and im hovering around 254 now. I want to get down to 215ish. I eat healthy, and work out 4 - 5 times per week, alternating between upper body and then cardio. My legs don't need much. Any advice on what I should be using? I use the Body Fortress whey protein after workouts. Im in Little Rock, so availability is limited unless I order from online somewhere...
                            You save money ordering online anyway. Try Lockouts prices. Meltdown is a decent product but there is stronger for sure.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by GRAYHORSE View Post
                              You save money ordering online anyway. Try Lockouts prices. Meltdown is a decent product but there is stronger for sure.
                              Cool, I'll order from lockout then, but what do I order lol? I dunno shit about this stuff, and I could spend weeks reading all the crap out there, which by then, something different would be out. So, whats the best for burning off fat and leaning out?

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                              • #75
                                I just started taking oxy elite pro, mainly for through the day energy and to help some weight loss. Is it ok to do the oxy with just a whey iso shake in the morning? I also take a single scoop of Assault for pre workout, is it safe to do this?
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