2012 Nissan GT-R

[V8tt]

I just recently read the comparo of it and the ZO6 and a couple of others. It is a bad-ass, no doubt. What I find ironic is that every thing I love about Jap cars, does not apply to it...like longevity, low maintenance cost, reliability, and gas mileage. Just a thought...

Where did you get information about reliability and longevity. Just curious. I know people bitched about the tranny issues from the first release...but the 2012 won't have the launch/tranny issues like before. I think gas mileage is pretty good for a car running 2.85 in 0-60 (Motor Trend Vol 62 #9) and runs a 1/4 mile in 12.1. They got 16/23 which is pretty impressive for a super car. Hell the previous GTR was 15/21 so they have actually gotten more hp/tq output and better gas mileage. And how many production cars out there can be upgraded to new model performance? If you bought a 2009, 2010, or a 2011 you can take the car in (for a price of course) and have it upgraded to the specs of a 2012. They recalibrate and reprogram the engine to the better specs. Can't really think of any other manufacturers offering that. For 89k, it is a badass car that rivals ALOT of supercars 2 and 3 times its price.

The warranty they offer is pretty good no doubt.

Warranty
Bumper-to-bumper 3 years/36,000 miles
Powertrain 5 years/60,000 miles
Corrosion 5 years
Free scheduled maintenance 5 years/60,000 miles with service optimization at 1,000 miles followed by 12, 24 and 26 months

[V8tt]

the new Boss outruns one on Leguna Sega. That's embarassing =/

Not sure which numbers you are talking about. If there is something else with a 2012 GTR against a new Boss..please post. This comparison is from 2008 with a 2009 GTR prerelease run. Don't get me wrong. The new Boss LS is badass and has GREAT track performance for just under 50K. I think the whole conversation is the same across the board. You either don't like the GTR/Mustang/Corvette/(insert car of choice) and would never buy one or you do and would. I love the GTR and no it is not a perfect car...but none out there are. All cars have weak areas, be it performance/cooling issues/overall cost/looks/styling/etc etc. I personally would take a 1997 Nissan Skyline 400R or maybe the R33 N1 over any car in the world (assuming you couldn't sell it). Just like some of you guys would take the latest ZR1 or whatever...that is my preference.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/4d8b1b8f57912.html

Nissan GT-R @ Laguna Seca
Lap time ID: 4d8b1b8f57912
Car: 2008 Nissan GT-R (352 kw)
Track: Laguna Seca
Lap time: 1:39.620
Conditions: Normal
Driven by: Toshio Suzuki
Additional notes: Pre-launch testing of 2008 production car
Submitter IP: 95.149.***.***
Date & time of submission: 24/03/11, 1211

In relation to other laptimes:
Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50
Porsche 997 GT3 1:39.52
Nissan GT-R 1:39.62
Porsche 997 Turbo 1:39.89
Porsche 997 Turbo S

[momo]

x2

Love that car.

x3.

r34 would be one of the immediate acquisitions upon lotto winning.

[inline 6]

it looks like a chevy cobalt......

[joes01bullitt]

x3.

r34 would be one of the immediate acquisitions upon lotto winning.

x4!

i have a buddy that has a new 09 GTR that is pretty fucking quick, its pushing close to 1400hp he was at TX2K11 accomponied by a Black TT Viper

[Lason]

$20k tranny made of glass, $50k engine made of slightly tougher glass and all that for north of $90K? No thanks!

I understand the trannys are supposed to be tougher but Ill believe it when I see it. Seeing Nissan screw customer after customer on that issue alone has left a bad taste in my mouth on the GTR. Ill take that blue R34 though.

[joes01bullitt]

$20k tranny made of glass, $50k engine made of slightly tougher glass and all that for north of $90K? No thanks!

I understand the trannys are supposed to be tougher but Ill believe it when I see it. Seeing Nissan screw customer after customer on that issue alone has left a bad taste in my mouth on the GTR. Ill take that blue R34 though.

true but its a supercar...and honestly if you have the money to buy one, then you should be able to keep up with any needs it may require even if its a tranny/engine etc.

[papapepper]

I'll take a 12' Boss over 12' GTR but that's just my preference.... Similar times it looks like.

Although I'd take that blue r34 over both

[LaserSVT]

Not sure which numbers you are talking about. If there is something else with a 2012 GTR against a new Boss..please post. This comparison is from 2008 with a 2009 GTR prerelease run. Don't get me wrong. The new Boss LS is badass and has GREAT track performance for just under 50K. ...

You MAY find a regular Boss for under 50k but most are closer to 58k. Laguna Seca cars start around 68k and run up to 108k depending on which S/N it is. Seems like when you get to under #50 they go up a good $2000 per earlier number.

[V8tt]

I was pulling numbers from the latest R & T. It says the Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS lists at $40,145...as tested $47,990. But we all know that isn't dealership prices. I will concur with you...i was just quoting R&T.

[32vfromhell]

Not sure which numbers you are talking about. If there is something else with a 2012 GTR against a new Boss..please post. This comparison is from 2008 with a 2009 GTR prerelease run. Don't get me wrong. The new Boss LS is badass and has GREAT track performance for just under 50K. I think the whole conversation is the same across the board. You either don't like the GTR/Mustang/Corvette/(insert car of choice) and would never buy one or you do and would. I love the GTR and no it is not a perfect car...but none out there are. All cars have weak areas, be it performance/cooling issues/overall cost/looks/styling/etc etc. I personally would take a 1997 Nissan Skyline 400R or maybe the R33 N1 over any car in the world (assuming you couldn't sell it). Just like some of you guys would take the latest ZR1 or whatever...that is my preference.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/4d8b1b8f57912.html

Nissan GT-R @ Laguna Seca
Lap time ID: 4d8b1b8f57912
Car: 2008 Nissan GT-R (352 kw)
Track: Laguna Seca
Lap time: 1:39.620
Conditions: Normal
Driven by: Toshio Suzuki
Additional notes: Pre-launch testing of 2008 production car
Submitter IP: 95.149.***.***
Date & time of submission: 24/03/11, 1211

In relation to other laptimes:
Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50
Porsche 997 GT3 1:39.52
Nissan GT-R 1:39.62
Porsche 997 Turbo 1:39.89
Porsche 997 Turbo S

ah, you mean the pre-production ringer car that no production car could match when called out by Porsche for verifying Nissan's Nurburgring numbers?

[V8tt]

ah, you mean the pre-production ringer car that no production car could match when called out by Porsche for verifying Nissan's Nurburgring numbers?

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1029995_nissan-defends-gt-r-nurburgring-lap-time-with-second-video

If you read far enough in..you will find that the GTR that ran that lap was actually carrying more weight than normal due to test equipment being on board. A japanese test driver who knew that car through and through ran NUR...numerous times to probably get that time. Do you think that if a Japanese driver grabbed a 911 Turbo S and ran it he would do as well as a Porsche Test driver? Probably not. People were hating because Nissan did so much with that car. They have been refining and tuning the GTR Since '69. There are actually race in Australia and Japan where the GTR isn't allowed to run in due to fairness (not sure if that is still applicabel...it was back in the late 80s and into the 90s. Love it or hate the GTR is a badass world class super car.

Alot of people (not saying you) can't get past the fact that it is a "rice burner" Nissan from Japan. Some think it is "ugly", some hate the tranny, some hate the fact that you can't use the launch w/o voiding the warranty, some hate it because it isn't a Mustang or a Corvette. ANYONE who TRULY appreciates automobiles and understands the technical advances of the GTR can only at worst say "yeah..it may be (insert hate comment here) but it is a bad ass machine". Hell I don't care much for the EVOs but they are amazing at what they can do in such a small package. I don't much like the new mustang...I think it is one of the uglier mustangs ever made...but I can appreciate how far it has progressed as a sports car and the absolute zeal with which it gobbles up the American imagination. To each his own I say. We all love different cars for different reasons. Denny likes those Cobra IIs and someone on here loves the Fairmonts...the wagons at that. To each his own.

[jdgregory84]

true but its a supercar...and honestly if you have the money to buy one, then you should be able to keep up with any needs it may require even if its a tranny/engine etc.

If the engine blows for doing what the car was designed and promoted to do...the customer shouldn't have to pay $50,000+ for a new one while it's under warranty.

[91cavgt]

[Mike]

You the wigger with the crooked finger?