Tesla Model-S on the streetz

[Gasser64]

The temp that is the issue is the inside of the battery cell and there is not a fast way to lower it.

How about superconductivity? There are some interesting avenues out there that they could explore, that point to them not being so expensive. It would of course require that R&D money, but its not outside the realm of possibility.

[AnthonyS]

How about superconductivity? There are some interesting avenues out there that they could explore, that point to them not being so expensive. It would of course require that R&D money, but its not outside the realm of possibility.

In the 80s superconductors were the key to making solar and wind power possible allowing power to be transferred without line loses. Today we know how that all worked out. It's right next to cold fusion in the realm of likelihood. Until some Einstein guy comes along again and solves these issues hydrocarbons are still king ding a ling. When your Tesla or Prius is plugged into the wall socket charging, it's a coal burner.

[mschmoyer]

In the 80s superconductors were the key to making solar and wind power possible allowing power to be transferred without line loses. Today we know how that all worked out. It's right next to cold fusion in the realm of likelihood. Until some Einstein guy comes along again and solves these issues hydrocarbons are still king ding a ling. When your Tesla or Prius is plugged into the wall socket charging, it's a coal burner.

Brian Feldman, visionary entrepreneur - innovation consultant and robotics specialist
Answered Oct 25, 2014

To expand upon Nathan Kaemingk's answer and put some numbers to it from a vehicle perspective:

Consider the Tesla Model S, which has an available 85kWh battery and a 265 mile range.

Consider a similar gas-powered car, which gets 35 mpg.

Gasoline contains about 33kwh of energy per gallon.

The Tesla uses 320 Wh/mile of energy (85kWh/265 miles)

The gas powered car uses 940 Wh/mile of energy (33kWh/35 miles)

Once the energy is onboard (not counting the efficiency of the power generation, oil refining, or charging), the Tesla is using only about a third as much energy as the comparable gasoline-powered car.

[cobrajet69]

Got that law degree and now this mother fucker can't say cactus?

Cactus is so commoner and beneath the good counselor!


David

[cobrajet69]

5 laps around any road course and I could take one in my truck. It's pretty cool, but it's a one trick pony. If one wants to race, do it from a 50 mph roll or on a road course. When it comes to lap times or top speed, fuel burners still rule.

I raced a P100 D from a 35 mph roll. He had three passengers and while I was able to pull away, it was nowhere near a drag. I also cannot concur whether he was in Ludacris mode or not but those things are stupid fast.


David

[Sean88gt]

Got that law degree and now this mother fucker can't say cactus?

Cactus is so commoner and beneath the good counselor!


David

LOL! Fuck you guys!

[jw33]

Will any combustion engine drivetrain be able to compete at an acceleration contest on this level? These 4-doors are running bottom 9.2x 1/4 mile ET now at over 150+mph and are only going to keep getting quicker.

[scootro]

i had to fast forward that shit video! blah blah blah

[svauto-erotic855]

Right now EVs cannot repeat their high performance runs back to back. The choke point is keeping the battery cool and until technology improves better cooling than what they do now is not going to be possible. An EV may win on the first pass but it won't on the second third fourth Etc.

Edit: Given current technology the ultimate production street drag racer will be a hybrid.

[inline 6]

Right now EVs cannot repeat their high performance runs back to back. The choke point is keeping the battery cool and until technology improves better cooling than what they do now is not going to be possible. An EV may win on the first pass but it won't on the second third fourth Etc.

Edit: Given current technology the ultimate production street drag racer will be a hybrid.

Did you watch literally any of those videos? the teslas were dusting everything in sight repeatedly.

[svauto-erotic855]

Did you watch literally any of those videos? the teslas were dusting everything in sight repeatedly.

They were out there all day filming and did not hot lap the cars and had a cool-down between the runs. The Tesla cannot do runs like that back to back; nothing will change that until they either have different Battery Technology or double or triple up on the batteries in the car

[jw33]

You're not wrong, but the gap in performance is so large now that it takes a lot to get the Tesla down to parity in performance. And let's not pretend that a tradition combustion engine drivetrain doesn't have some fall off at peak performance. Plenty of cars go into limp mode when pushed at or near the limit for too long. I think the latest version of the Telsa requires about a five minute warm up from a normal resting battery temperature and can still run sub ten second 1/4 mile ET at 20% state of charge. Running low 9's in a four door that costs $130K seems plenty fun to me.

[svauto-erotic855]

^^^ I'm not really knocking them, I just don't like them. Being an engineer I gravitate to what works and I'm acutely aware of the limitations of what I'm working with. I'm sure that I've mentioned it before but when I was in high school and early into college my goal was to go to work for one of the big three designing electric cars. That bubble got burst when I built an electric car and crashed headlong long into the limitations of the technology. I've said it over and over but I'll say it again. The challenges I faced in the late 80s with an electric car are the exact same challenges that every EV manufacturer is facing now and they are insurmountable because they are the limitations of the technology.

[Murph Tang]

I would never race one except maybe from a roll. EVs vs IC motors are comparing apples to oranges.

Not to mention every one of them are ugly. I think that's an EV requirement.

[Rick Modena]

I've never raced them either and have had a few chances, I just ignore them, because they are ugly as fuck.
Now the new Lucid, Fisker and Audi look pretty dope. but until they get the MPC's up, and price goes down I'm not buying one anytime soon.

I would buy a MACH E GT just to bust my S.I.L's ass in his Y type, just because he's always bragging about how fast it is.