Man forcibly removed from overbooked United Airlines flight

[naynay]

No, they don't, that is why there is a passenger bill of rights and a lot of other shit.

you couldn't be more wrong, but i'll let you look up the FAA regulations yourself.

[Mysticcobrakilla]

And, as history has shown, fall flat on your face/exit stage left.

Lmao. Pretty much

[Broncojohnny]

"I don't have a law degree but I installed the toilets in a Holiday Inn last night..."

What?

[Fastback]

What?

Do you have a law degree ? (whereas Naynay does not) Serious question.

[naynay]

gonna try to use a middle ground source here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/news/a26010/united-airlines-bump-passenger-rights/

the fact is, they can ask ANYONE to get off the plane at any time. same way a taxi can stop the car and drop your ass, even down to an uber.

if you were awake 2 weeks ago you would remember the story about the 2 12 year old girls who were removed from a flight for wearing leggings while flying under a 'friends and family
discount that required them to dress in accordance with the airlines policies for employees.

and no, i dont have a law degree, but i do get paid to follow current events so you should always fact check yourself. google is free or PM me if you want inside sources for breaking news.

[Forever_frost]

Friends and family flights fall under different regs than a fare paying customer who is already seated.

Even United knows they screwed the pooch on this one. There are very clear rules on what can get you booted from a flight. United wanting your seat because they want to put their people on the flight isn't one of them. Drunk, smelly, disruptive, loud, etc? Sure.

Peacefully sitting and reading? Nope.

[naynay]

take it to court if you want, you still missed your flight.

[likeitfast55]

Friends and family flights fall under different regs than a fare paying customer who is already seated.

Even United knows they screwed the pooch on this one. There are very clear rules on what can get you booted from a flight. United wanting your seat because they want to put their people on the flight isn't one of them. Drunk, smelly, disruptive, loud, etc? Sure.

Peacefully sitting and reading? Nope.

Sorry to burst your bubble, we have the authority to ask anyone for any reason to leave the aircraft. We will have to justify it, but you can not refuse. (friends and family we call non-rev, because it is a FREE open seat. The company sets policy in the order of proper dress codes for non-rev. There are no FAA regulation for improper dress code for non-rev's)

Having said that, Republic Airlines(United feeder) handled it 100% wrong. I have had my flight in this situation many times before ----- no one wanted to get off(last flight to XYZ)Dispatch made the call and canceled the flight to avoid this happening. People getting removed from flights happens many times a day regardless of the carrier.

[naynay]

oh hey look an actual pilot..

Al, come see!

[juiceweezl]

Sorry to burst your bubble, we have the authority to ask anyone for any reason to leave the aircraft. We will have to justify it, but you can not refuse. (friends and family we call non-rev, because it is a FREE open seat. The company sets policy in the order of proper dress codes for non-rev. There are no FAA regulation for improper dress code for non-rev's)

Having said that, Republic Airlines(United feeder) handled it 100% wrong. I have had my flight in this situation many times before ----- no one wanted to get off(last flight to XYZ)Dispatch made the call and canceled the flight to avoid this happening. People getting removed from flights happens many times a day regardless of the carrier.

oh hey look an actual pilot..

Al, come see!

Not sure which dictionary you use, Naynus, but asking is entirely different than dragging in mine. They can ask whatever they want, but the passenger was protected in this case. United was wrong and will have to pay, probably in FAA fines and also in court.

[naynay]

Lol ok buddy. You're a dense mf.

[likeitfast55]

Not sure which dictionary you use, Naynus, but asking is entirely different than dragging in mine. They can ask whatever they want, but the passenger was protected in this case. United was wrong and will have to pay, probably in FAA fines and also in court.

Just to be clear, you must comply ---- the airlines will have to pay a penalty up to a certain amount for removal. I am not sure what that is, not my area.

The dragging was wrong -- period. No defense for that at all. I believe that this pax will be compensated in some way for sure and he deserves it, IMHO. After all the airlines got what they wanted "the seat", the pax needs to be made whole.

There is very little "protection" (except for monetary) for a pax when asked to exit an aircraft. To not comply with the gate agents will trigger the flight crew to step in and demand removal. To not comply can be interference with a flight crew and that IS regulated by federal law. This is extreme and I have only encountered this situation a couple of times in my 35 years of airline tenure.

[naynay]

get outta here with facts.

the GM assembly line worker knows his rights dammit!

[juiceweezl]

Just to be clear, you must comply ---- the airlines will have to pay a penalty up to a certain amount for removal. I am not sure what that is, not my area.

The dragging was wrong -- period. No defense for that at all. I believe that this pax will be compensated in some way for sure and he deserves it, IMHO. After all the airlines got what they wanted "the seat", the pax needs to be made whole.

There is very little "protection" (except for monetary) for a pax when asked to exit an aircraft. To not comply with the gate agents will trigger the flight crew to step in and demand removal. To not comply can be interference with a flight crew and that IS regulated by federal law. This is extreme and I have only encountered this situation a couple of times in my 35 years of airline tenure.

See this part, Naynus. That's the key. I fly 60K plus a year as a passenger. I've seen people removed. I've volunteered to take another flight. I've seen people compensated. Passengers have rights including to the seat they paid for. If it's taken from them, then they must be compensated, and on the spot. Further, they have to be given a written statement if they are involuntarily bumped. They can't just say, "Fuck you! Get off!" Fortunately for you, it seems you have the same rights here. It's past time for you to be sent back to your cage.

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights

[naynay]

See this part, Naynus. That's the key. I fly 60K plus a year as a passenger. I've seen people removed. I've volunteered to take another flight. I've seen people compensated. Passengers have rights including to the seat they paid for. If it's taken from them, then they must be compensated, and on the spot. Further, they have to be given a written statement if they are involuntarily bumped. They can't just say, "Fuck you! Get off!" Fortunately for you, it seems you have the same rights here. It's past time for you to be sent back to your cage.

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights

and if you knew the story you would know that they were offered immediate compensation totalling over $800 with vouchers and other perks.

you can ask someone to do something all you want and they dont have to. but when you tell them gtfo my plane then you get them the fuck off the plane.