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  • Originally posted by LaserSVT View Post
    So thats a yes.
    Of course, you would be a fool not to vote for Obama.

    The only reason this website doesn't like him is because he is black and most people on here are racist.
    Originally posted by lincolnboy
    After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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    • Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
      Of course, you would be a fool not to vote for Obama.

      The only reason this website doesn't like him is because he is black and most people on here are racist.

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      • Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
        Of course, you would be a fool not to vote for Obama.

        The only reason this website doesn't like him is because he is black and most people on here are racist.
        Troll is trolling.
        Besides, DOHCTR is only paying taxes with his dad's money anyways.
        Last edited by CexMashean; 06-12-2012, 03:52 PM.
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        • If i had a gun i would shoot all four of you.
          http://dfwdirtriders.com/ New Website for the off road peeps

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          • Originally posted by Buick355 View Post
            Man I sure wish we had a politics or gun forum......
            ....
            Originally posted by Taya Kyle, American Gun
            There comes a time when honest debate, serious diplomatic efforts, and logical arguments have been exhausted and only men and women willing to take up arms against evil will suffice to save the freedom of a nation or continent.

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            • Originally posted by SNEAKY View Post
              If i had a gun i would shoot all four of you.
              Whew! Thank God we live in Japan!
              Originally posted by PGreenCobra
              I can't get over the fact that you get to go live the rest of your life, knowing that someone made a Halloween costume out of you. LMAO!!
              Originally posted by Trip McNeely
              Originally posted by dsrtuckteezy
              dont downshift!!
              Go do a whooly in front of a Peterbilt.

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              • Good judgment comes from bad decisions and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

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                • Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                  Total gun homicides rate per 100,000 people in the US: 4.14

                  Total gun homicides rate per 100,000 people in the Japan: 0.02




                  Guns per 100 residents in the US: 88.8

                  Guns per 100 residents in Japan: .003



                  Gun control can work, but we would have a hell of a hard time implementing it here because our society is so permeated with them, and we do not have the luxury of being an island nation (so as to prevent the illegal importation of arms).
                  The more important statistic is japan is like 98% ethnic japanese. They have extremely low immigration. Long history of killing anyone who washes up on their shores too.

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                  • And what is their suicide rate compared to ours?
                    Originally posted by Taya Kyle, American Gun
                    There comes a time when honest debate, serious diplomatic efforts, and logical arguments have been exhausted and only men and women willing to take up arms against evil will suffice to save the freedom of a nation or continent.

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                    • Originally posted by SNEAKY View Post
                      If i had a gun i would shoot all four of you.
                      lulz

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                      • Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                        He has actually signed bills relaxing gun laws.
                        Trolling aside, I fucking hate that quote. So many idiot libs throw that misinformation out there. He HAD to sign the bill allowing guns in state parks because it was inside a much bigger bill that he wanted. He does not and will never support the Second Amendment. Fuck.


                        updated 5/20/2009 624 PM ET

                        WASHINGTON — In a stinging defeat for gun-control, the U.S. Congress has voted to allow people to carry loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

                        The House approved the measure, 279-147, on Wednesday, one day after the Senate acted. A total of 105 Democrats in the House joined 174 Republicans in supporting the gun measure, which essentially restores a Bush administration policy that allowed loaded guns in national parks for two months earlier this year.

                        A total of 105 Democrats in the House joined 174 Republicans in supporting the gun measure, which essentially restores a Bush administration policy that briefly allowed loaded guns in national parks earlier this year. The measure, which is included in a bill imposing new restrictions on credit card companies, allows licensed gun owners to bring firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges as long as they are allowed by state law.

                        "The NRA is basically taking over the House and Senate," said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., a leading gun-control supporter. "If the NRA wins, the American people are going to be the ones who lose."

                        Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., disputed that.

                        "The fact is American gun owners are simply citizens who want to exercise their Second Amendment rights without running into confusing red tape," Hastings said.

                        Hastings and other Republicans said the bill merely aligns national parks and wildlife refuges with regulations governing the national forests and property controlled by the Bureau of Land Management.

                        GOP says current policy outdated
                        The GOP called the current policy outdated and confusing to those who visit public lands, noting that merely traveling from state-owned parks to national parks meant some visitors were violating the law.

                        A majority of Democrats in both the House and Senate opposed the gun measure, but enough Democrats voted for the bill that the final tally in both chambers was not close.

                        Democratic leaders decided not to remove the gun provision after Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., was able to insert it into a popular bill imposing new restrictions on credit card companies. Lawmakers and aides said there was not enough time to send the bill to a House-Senate conference committee — where it could be removed without a vote — and still get it to President Barack Obama by Memorial Day as he has requested.

                        "There's a lot of momentum to get this done," said Rep. Raul Grijalva, R-Ariz.

                        Grijalva, chairman of national parks subcommittee, opposed the gun measure, but said the "sense of urgency from the White House" to get the credit card bill approved, combined with the NRA's clout, were impossible to overcome.

                        Bryan Faehner, associate director of the National Parks Conservation Association, which has fought the gun rule in court, blamed Obama and Democratic leaders such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.

                        "If they wanted to stop this, it seems like they can," Faehner said before the House vote. "It comes down to whether or not they are willing to keep parks safe for the American people or kowtow to special interests like the gun groups."

                        NRA says nobody threatened over vote
                        Chris W. Cox, chief lobbyist for the NRA, said the group pushed for the gun measure but did not threaten anyone over the vote.

                        "Obviously this is an issue that affects our membership," Cox said. But to claim the NRA sets the agenda in Congress "misrepresents the role that NRA plays in the process, he said.

                        Cox also disputed a claim by the Humane Society of the United States that the gun bill would lead to an increase in wildlife poaching in national parks.

                        "The NRA is opposed to poaching and always has been," he said. "We've supported enhanced penalties for illegal activities including poaching. The Humane Society has zero credibility when to comes to Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners."

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                        • They see me trollin'...... they hatin'....
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                              • "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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