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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Sarge View Post
    is there a WW1 version?
    here's dubya dubya 1....



    if you want to know about ireland...here's that too.

    Can't beat them, Join their NEW message board !!

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    • #17
      Didn't the Ira bomb a hotel thatcher was staying in?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by exlude View Post

        So: in terms of economics, the NDSAP was right-wing. In terms of government structure, the NDSAP was right-wing. In terms of social policy, the NDSAP was right-wing. In terms of militarism, the NDSAP was right-wing. I fail to see how anyone can possibly argue that the Nazis were leftist.
        According to all the great many documentaries I've watched on them over the years, they dont have very much in common with the right wing that ive come to know in america. And this is all excluding jews

        Right wingers here seem to want the businesses to unfettered by the government. I think we all know what the nazis did with german businesses.

        Right wingers dont ration medicine that they also want doled out by the government. They simply dont want the government doling out anything, including medicine. (ie, paying for it). Paying for, and rationing medical supplies, funds and services is by its very definition left wing. Since they are the ones who want socialized medicine to begin with.

        Right wingers also want very minimal government, which would obviously include keeping the military out of your face. Direct opposite of the Nazis even when it came to german citizens. Soviet russia a good left wing example, had a giant military that they used to control the people just like the NSDAP. In soviet russia the military could be seen nearly anywhere and everywhere hence the saying "where are your papers comrade". Nazis always wanted papers too

        Frankly i dont see how anyone could say they werent far left, perhaps farther left than any communist regime has ever been. All their behaviors say: All government all the time. A lefty mainstay and abhorrent to rightys

        The fact that article says that the "Socialist" was a "sick" lie in the NSDAP leads me to believe that theres a butthurt lefty somewhere who doesnt like the association and is trying to lie or put out some propaganda to cover for socialism's ruinous past
        WH

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
          According to all the great many documentaries I've watched on them over the years, they dont have very much in common with the right wing that ive come to know in america. And this is all excluding jews

          Right wingers here seem to want the businesses to unfettered by the government. I think we all know what the nazis did with german businesses.

          Right wingers dont ration medicine that they also want doled out by the government. They simply dont want the government doling out anything, including medicine. (ie, paying for it). Paying for, and rationing medical supplies, funds and services is by its very definition left wing. Since they are the ones who want socialized medicine to begin with.

          Right wingers also want very minimal government, which would obviously include keeping the military out of your face. Direct opposite of the Nazis even when it came to german citizens. Soviet russia a good left wing example, had a giant military that they used to control the people just like the NSDAP. In soviet russia the military could be seen nearly anywhere and everywhere hence the saying "where are your papers comrade". Nazis always wanted papers too

          Frankly i dont see how anyone could say they werent far left, perhaps farther left than any communist regime has ever been. All their behaviors say: All government all the time. A lefty mainstay and abhorrent to rightys
          These traits (state ownership, rationing, and large military) are more indicative of the time than the political stance of the country. Western countries saw a good bit of state ownership in the Post-Depression era. In Germany, this was something that caught on before Nazi rise. Rationing and large military was something enacted by many countries in regard to the world war.

          But, like I said, your interpretation could be successful. I think it's more a fault of the "right vs. left" scale and its shortcomings than anything else.

          The fact that article says that the "Socialist" was a "sick" lie in the NSDAP leads me to believe that theres a butthurt lefty somewhere who doesnt like the association and is trying to lie or put out some propaganda to cover for socialism's ruinous past
          This is simply ad hominem, as it ignores the argument just to attack the author.
          Last edited by exlude; 05-23-2014, 07:18 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by exlude View Post
            These traits (state ownership, rationing, and large military) are more indicative of the time than the political stance of the country. Western countries saw a good bit of state ownership in the Post-Depression era. In Germany, this was something that caught on before Nazi rise. Rationing and large military was something enacted by many countries in regard to the world war.

            But, like I said, your interpretation could be successful. I think it's more a fault of the "right vs. left" scale and its shortcomings than anything else.
            Oh I certainly agree about the times. Maybe it would be better stated that while during their day they didnt have much in common with anybody else. But in this time, their stance would better mirror the far left rather than the far right. And in a 100 years, maybe not so much.


            Originally posted by exlude View Post
            This is simply ad hominem, as it ignores the argument just to attack the author.
            Unclear on this meaning. I would say yes i was attacking the author as biased. He or she seemed to think that it was sick to for the NSDAP to call themselves socialist. as if being socialist was somehow something the that author thought was good. I dislike bias
            WH

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bputacoma View Post
              here's dubya dubya 1....



              if you want to know about ireland...here's that too.

              ty
              If you can read this thank a teacher. If it's in English thank a soldier.

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