Dashcam vid released in Grisham arrest

[Sean88gt]

I am pro carry. But to carry and not do what the officer says without question, leads to this type of stuff. If he would have simply complied, I bet he would have walked away with his guns. Getting confrontational with an officer wins you some special prizes.

Officers should be questioned, instead of being allowed to trample on your rights.

Call it age, education, whatever, but the older I get, the less I respect police (and authority in general) and feel they are really ineffective, on a grand scale.

[racrguy]

Officers should be questioned, instead of being allowed to trample on your rights.

Call it age, education, whatever, but the older I get, the less I respect police (and authority in general) and feel they are really ineffective, on a grand scale.

Typically an increase in police force does not have a similar decrease in crime rates.

[Rick Modena]

Officers should be questioned, instead of being allowed to trample on your rights.

Call it age, education, whatever, but the older I get, the less I respect police (and authority in general) and feel they are really ineffective, on a grand scale.

Wow, you people are starting to get what I've been saying for years. We have no rights, if the man feels like fucking up your life, it will be fucked with.

[dcs13]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

[Craizie]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

I think they are demonstrating how easily our "rights" are taken from us.

[Buick355]

I guess the point of open carry is that it's a bit of a deterrent for criminals, but open carrying a big gun seems excessive unless you're in Detroit or south Dallas or something.

[racrguy]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

Do you have to have a reason to open carry? As long as you aren't pointing the thing at someone you should be left alone.

[juiceweezl]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

Let's play your game for a minute. You've seen the headlines where certain punk kids are playing a game called 'Knockout' right? Do you think someone that is exercising their right to open carry would be a victim of that game? Who knows what reason someone wants to open carry for -- it doesn't matter. The point is that they legally can do so and choose to exercise that right.

[dcs13]

Don't get me wrong here, I love guns. It just seems the ones that one's that want to do this "demonstrations" are sometimes more harmful to the cause. They come off like a bunch of yahoo's which perpetuates the stereotype of redneck gun owners. This does nothing for the cause in my opinion.
For the MOST part, if you look at the videos like this, the cops do fine with their response. Face it, this is something new and some of the lesser educated cops aren't going to come off too well. Grisham got convicted by his peers in his community after they viewed the video. I guess the citizens of that county had a problem with what happened.
Personally , I don't want anyone to know I'm packing. I think that gives me a tactical edge. While they focus on what they're wanting, I can get my plan worked out and handle what I need to.

[Forever_frost]

I'm not talking about civil rights moron.

Yes you really are. You don't get more basic of a civil right than the right to defend yourself.

[Forever_frost]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

The same thing anyone who exercises a right hopes to accomplish. Exercising their right. Most of us would like to be able to legally open carry as carrying when it's 100 outside is really a bitch if you have to dress to conceal.

[GhostTX]

What do the "open carry" people hope to accomplish with these demonstrations ? What's the "end game" here ?
We've carried guns for years. Wanting to open carry an AR15 down the street accomplishes what ?

In this case in particular, he was in BFE on rural road, not doing some demonstration in downtown:

"Army Master Sgt. C.J. Grisham was on a ten-mile Boy Scout hike with his son in Texas when he was arrested and accused of “rudely displaying” his firearm. Knowing there are wild boars, coyotes, and cougars in the area, he had an AR-15 rifle slung over his shoulder and was also carrying a .45 caliber pistol, according to Fox News’ Todd Starnes.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/16/decorated-vet-arrested-after-rudely-displaying-his-rifle-says-officer-pulled-gun-on-him-in-front-of-boy-scouts/

[dcs13]

In this case in particular, he was in BFE on rural road, not doing some demonstration in downtown:
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This deal is one of the one's the cops did not handle well. It turned into a pissing match. BOTH sides could have handled it better.

You guys gotta start looking at this on a higher level. we have to take back our goverment (peacefully hopefully). We have to put people in office that will represent us and our conservative gun toting views. People outside of Texas think most Texans are a bunch of secession screaming yahoo's that want to carry guns and drink and drive.
look at Michigan and New Jersey. The middle easterners have moved in and taken over whole areas. They VOTE in their people and in some areas want to impose Sharia law. They have a plan and execute it. If we don't wise up and take this bull by the horns, you can kiss your guns and a whole lot of other rights good bye...

[SSMAN]

Officers should be questioned, instead of being allowed to trample on your rights.

Call it age, education, whatever, but the older I get, the less I respect police (and authority in general) and feel they are really ineffective, on a grand scale.

I have been divorced twice, so I am sick of conflict. Best way to beat the system, is to stay out of the system. It's been proven, they can and will trample on your rights. It is a corrupt system.

Diplomacy.............the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a manner that they look forward to the trip.

[Super Coupe]

Yes you really are. You don't get more basic of a civil right than the right to defend yourself.

Good god I'm not saying his rights weren't violated and I'm not saying that civil rights isn't something to take serious. Ill go walk down a road with a shotgun and if a police officer wants to disarm me first to ask what I was up to I wouldn't care. It's not like he's taking it for good. I especially wouldn't care if I had another pistol on me.