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    By KAYLA STRAYER
    6 News Reporter

    CROSSVILLE (WATE) - A Cumberland County father didn't want to wait in a long line of traffic to pick his kids up from school. That led to a series of encounters last week at South Cumberland Elementary, and now the dad's facing charges.

    You can see the full video on YouTube.

    A 6 News viewer pointed us to YouTube video of one of the incidents.

    "I'm going to call some help down here and we're going to take you up to the jail right now. I'm not putting up with this today. You're being childish and it's uncalled for," Sheriff Deputy and School Resource Officer Avery Aytes said in the YouTube video.

    The video goes on to show the dad arguing with the school security officer over state law, then the dad winds up in handcuffs.

    "I'm not raising my voice, I'm not confrontational, I want my kids," Jim Howe said in the YouTube video.

    The video was taken by Amanda Long Thursday afternoon as she and her fiance, Jim Howe, were trying to pick up Howe's two children from school. It shows Howe arguing with Deputy Aytes.

    Howe says, because of a new policy that started last week, the only way parents can get their children after 2 p.m. is to wait in a line of cars until everyone is released at 2:35. He says not only is this time consuming, it's illegal.

    "You don't need a reason as a parent to go get your children. They are our children," Howe said.

    As the video shows, Howe was arrested by Aytes for disorderly conduct. Deputy Aytes tells 6 News he's unable to comment because this is an open case. Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess says he hasn't seen the video and doesn't need to, because it won't tell the whole story. He says Aytes was just doing his job.

    "The resource officers are there to enforce the law," Burgess said.

    The sheriff says he agrees with Howe on principle. Both men say the new policy is creating safety concerns, mainly because there is line of cars that along the highway outside of the school. Burgess says parents should take any policy concerns to those in charge of the policy, not the school resource officer.

    "On the other hand, the school system needs to realize you can't make a black and white law," Burgess said.

    "If not for policy, we would have chaos, and we don't need chaos at the schools, but we also don't need an over zealous deputy setting an example in front of kids," Howe said.

    We were unable to get in contact with school officials for comment on the issue. The sheriff says he's reviewing the system and will make recommendations this week as to what changes should be made to ensure student safety.

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    • #3
      "On the other hand, the school system needs to realize you can't make a black and white law," Burgess said.

      Since when do schools create laws?

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      • #4
        I don't even know what to say anymore. These officer discretion laws need to be wiped out and cops like that need to be made example of. There was no disorderly conduct there, it was a cop with a giant ego on a power trip.

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        • #5
          I don't understand the problem. The man came in to pick up his kids. I doesn't matter what time it is, even during school, he should be able to.

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          • #6
            This is crap! Absolute crap. I cannot believe he was ARRESTED for that. He did warn the officer that they were opening themselves up for a lawsuit...

            I kept picturing myself in his shoes and i must say he handled it very well under the circumstances. I would have been PISSED.

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            • #7
              And the line that defines when the state owns your kids creeps forward.
              "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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              • #8
                I didn't hear any Miranda rights being said...

                And I loathe cops more and more. It seems that the number one prerequisite is that the officer have a thin skinned mangina that gets sand in it easily.

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                • #9
                  i wouldnt wish for the devil himself attempt to get in between my son and i.

                  god bless.
                  It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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                  • #10
                    That guy stayed a lot calmer than most people would and was more laid back than the cop was. He was in no way causing a disturbance or interfering with the business being conducted there so it's total bullshit.
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                    • #11
                      Where are all the cop nut huggers on this one? We need cops for cops. There just has to be a better way.

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                      • #12
                        i would just transfer my kid to another school.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GT Fanatic View Post
                          i would just transfer my kid to another school.
                          Because that's as easy as it sounds and isn't reactionary at all.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                            I didn't hear any Miranda rights being said...

                            And I loathe cops more and more. It seems that the number one prerequisite is that the officer have a thin skinned mangina that gets sand in it easily.
                            You don't have to be mirandized when being detained, only upon actual questioning. And if not being questioned, you dont get mirandized at all. ask me how i know.

                            and did you see roanoke's requirements? a fucking 2.0 over 30hours of college courses? Its obvious you dont need to be a mental giant in any form to be a cop.

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                            • #15
                              Well, I dont think this was the first run in they had with each other at the school, so who knows what happened or how many times this has happened before this was filmed. I'd like to hear how this plays out. The parent may have been calm in this video, but not so much before.

                              There's the parents story, the cops story , then the truth somewhere in the middle just like most incidents.

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