z28 vs. boss 302 LS

[JNH2010SS]

z28 vs. boss 302 LS

The gauntlet has been dropped. And I'm sure Ford will respond in kind, but it may be a couple of years into the new S550 platform.

Maybe a 5.8L DI and a diet for 2016? Boss 351 anyone? Who knows. It's a good time though.

I agree however like I said IMO they don't need to. Cars like Z/28's , Copo's and ford gt's and etc are great for auto maker bragging rights however they don't do much for sales or regular people.

Not many can afford to purchase a car like that.

Maybe when we get someone else in office one day automakers can build all types of stuff.

I'm curious how fords new IRS will be compared to the 03/04 cobras.

Fuck.

Post 43 made my head hurt.

Sorry about that man lol. It's easy to type and make a novel.

[momo]

Sure the Z28 will be fun on track...I just don't get the price. If tracking your car is your thing, there are TONS of cheaper, and FASTER options out there and the Boss302 is one of them. Hell, I'd bet a well driven Miata turbo could embarrass this car on track or at least chase it down after the tires go away! LOL!

this x1000

i've come to discover that the car enthusiast crowd has gotten so into what a car can do at the fucking ring (nordschleife) behind the hands of a hired gun yet the owner has no intention of ever taking their car to a track that is longer than 1/4 of a mile (if even that). they are content with their car's magazine stats for talking points at the next parking lot GTG.

[naynay]

+125ci
+305 tires
+ceramic brakes
+magnetic dampeners
-radio
-a/c
+$20,000

I'm a little disappointed it's only 4 seconds faster on a 2-minute track, lol!

I'd like to have one, but that price tag is a little obnoxious.

dude 4 seconds is an eternity... you'll be 2-3 turns ahead, given the track.. thats A LOT of ground, and the 302 LS is the most track capable, so your +$20k factor can be taken out of the equation.

[BlackGT]

Why would the +$20K be taken out of the equation?

No way it takes any where near $20K for upgrades to the boss to make up the claimed 4 sec difference in lap times...

I'm disappointed in the performance of the Z/28 for how much it costs...

[MattB]

If you say the Z28 is a "track car", then why not compare it to a Boss 302 "S"? Not too much more in price, and if you look hard enough you can find one for $75k. It isn't street legal, but it will do everything a new z28 will do, and it already has a nice cage, 6 point belts, etc!

[Mach1]

c7 vs z28 hrmm?

[MattB]

c7 vs z28 hrmm?

I'd rather have the C7, 7 speed manual, no options except Z51/magnetic shocks/dual mode exhaust. Sticker = ~$57k.

[momo]

I'd rather have the C7, 7 speed manual, no options except Z51/magnetic shocks/dual mode exhaust. Sticker = ~$57k.

yes. easy choice.

id also rather have a c6 z06 over it.

[32vfromhell]

The gauntlet has been dropped. And I'm sure Ford will respond in kind, but it may be a couple of years into the new S550 platform.

Maybe a 5.8L DI and a diet for 2016? Boss 351 anyone? Who knows. It's a good time though.

Ford would have to react quicker than that. The camaro sales have been very strong lately. Stronger than the mustangs. I think i read an article that analysts pointed that up to that the camaro had better color options, lol.

Which is why Ford did some crazy new colors for 2013.

[momo]

well if the next generation mustang is truly 400 pounds lighter, that's a good place to start.

[46Tbird]

dude 4 seconds is an eternity... you'll be 2-3 turns ahead, given the track.. thats A LOT of ground, and the 302 LS is the most track capable, so your +$20k factor can be taken out of the equation.

C'mon Rodney, I know what four seconds per lap looks like. Put the Camaro on 255s and 285s and let's see what the lap times look like. That's my point, the Camaro is basically a race car with a VIN (titanium rods!) and has a lot of good hardware. It's MSRP is also $20k more than the Boss 302 LS, so I'm not going to take dollars out of the equation. If Ford comes up with a $90k Mustang to beat this thing, you can bet your ass you'll hear GM guys talking about the sticker.

Ford would have to react quicker than that. The camaro sales have been very strong lately. Stronger than the mustangs.

Sales for both of them are neck-and-neck, which is good considering the Mustang is on a nine year old platform. I think the 2015 car will sell well.

[naynay]

who the hell would pay $90k for a mustang?! "i'd rather have a 2005 ford gt"

[JNH2010SS]

If you say the Z28 is a "track car", then why not compare it to a Boss 302 "S"? Not too much more in price, and if you look hard enough you can find one for $75k. It isn't street legal, but it will do everything a new z28 will do, and it already has a nice cage, 6 point belts, etc!

I agree Matt. Maybe ford should step up and say we have a car for you to run. Shrugs

I'm guessing as the Z/28 is a track car gm compares it to others since you can order it with an a/c and a radio even if it has only 1 speaker in the car.

[MrSS]

Mustang vs Camaro threads

I love these type threads. There is always so much exaggerating of the #'s on both sides. First "it's only 4sec. faster" the guy in the video said atleast meaning at minimum. In the same video it is clearly 5.3 seconds faster same track same day. Second the Z/28 is 20k or 30k more than the LS 302. The boss LS base msrp was 49,900. No way that's a 70k or 80k Camaro. Not picking on anyone. I know people want to defend their purchase or preference in automobile. I'll even play that game, my 11 yr old c5 z06 still does everything better than both those cars except carry 4 people. I am really curious about the final price I don't see GM pricing it close to a c7 z51 which I'm sure is faster in every way.

[Super Coupe]

Most people in this thread arguing can't drive either car even close to its full potential if their life depended on it.