Flight 93 Memorial

[diablo rojo]

It's been on my list of places to visit and I was in the neighborhood today. The first thing I noticed was the silence out there. I could imagine the sudden sound of jet airline crossing the hills at 575 mph. They've placed a 17 ton boulder at the point of impact.

When you walk up, you're greeted by displays chronicling the events leading up to the crash and after.

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The layout of the site.

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[diablo rojo]

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The view out to the Memorial site.

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The white wall holds the names of the passengers and crew, while also representing the flight path.

[diablo rojo]

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The flight path ends at the boulder in the distance.

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The scenery adds to the somber tone.

I've been to all three sites now. It feels fresh each time.

[Denny]

Didn't the government take that land to make the memorial against the wishes of the landowners? I thought I remembered something about an eminent domain issue with that place.

[diablo rojo]

Didn't the government take that land to make the memorial against the wishes of the landowners? I thought I remembered something about an eminent domain issue with that place.

Probably

[JP135]

Didn't the government take that land to make the memorial against the wishes of the landowners? I thought I remembered something about an eminent domain issue with that place.

Way to go, Captain Buzzkill!

Nice to see that its a quiet, reflective place. I doubt I'll ever get up there, but would like to see the memorials at WTC, Penagon and there in Pa.

[01vnms4v]

thats awesome, thanks for sharing!

[Buick355]

Didn't the government take that land to make the memorial against the wishes of the landowners? I thought I remembered something about an eminent domain issue with that place.

They wanted to a memorial to remember where they shot that fucker down.

[naynay]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

The fourth plane hijacked on 9/11, United Airlines Flight 93, crashed in an open field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, after the passengers revolted. Out of the four planes hijacked on that day, Flight 93 was the only one not to reach its target.[130]
One of the popular conspiracy theories surrounding this event is that Flight 93 was actually shot down by a U.S. fighter jet. David Ray Griffin and Alex Jones say that large parts of the plane including the main body of the engine landed miles away from the main wreckage site, too far away for an ordinary plane crash. Jones says that planes usually leave a small debris field when they crash, and that this is not compatible with reports of wreckage found farther away from the main crash site. A posting on Rense.com claimed that the main body of the engine was found miles away from the main wreckage site with damage comparable to that which a heat-seeking missile would do to an airliner.[105][130][131]
According to some theories, the plane had to be shot down by the government because passengers had found out about the alleged plot.[76]
According to Phil Molé of Skeptic magazine, "[this] claim rests largely on unsupported assertions that the main body of the engine and other large parts of the plane turned up miles from the main wreckage site, too far away to have resulted from an ordinary crash. This claim is incorrect, because the engine was found only 300 yards from the main crash site, and its location was consistent with the direction in which the plane had been traveling."[132] Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996, says that, at very high velocities of 500 mph or more, it would only take a few seconds to move or tumble across the ground for 300 yards.[105][132]
Reports of wreckage discovered at Indian Lake by local residents are accurate. CNN reported that investigators found debris from the crash at least eight miles away from the crash site, including in New Baltimore.[133] However, according to CNN, this debris was all very light material that the wind would have easily blown away, and a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article from September 14, 2001 describes the material as "mostly papers", "strands of charred insulation", and an "endorsed paycheck". The same article quotes FBI agent Bill Crowley that, "Lighter, smaller debris probably shot into the air on the heat of a fireball that witnesses said shot several hundred feet into the air after the jetliner crashed. Then, it probably rode a wind that was blowing southeast at about 9 m.p.h."[134] Also, the distance between the crash site and Indian Lake was misreported in some accounts. According to the BBC, "In a straight line, Indian Lake is just over a mile from the crash site. The road between the two locations takes a roundabout route of 6.9 miles—accounting for the erroneous reports."[130]
Some conspiracy theorists believe a small white jet seen flying over the crash area may have fired a missile to shoot down Flight 93.[135][dubious – discuss] However, government agencies such as the FBI assert this small plane was a Dassault Falcon business jet asked to descend to an altitude of around 1,500 ft to survey the impact.[136] Ben Sliney, who was the FAA operation manager on September 11, 2001, says no military aircraft were near Flight 93.[137]
Some internet videos, such as Loose Change, speculate that Flight 93 safely landed in Ohio, and a substituted plane was involved in the crash in Pennsylvania.[138] Often cited is a preliminary news report that Flight 93 landed at a Cleveland airport;[139] it was later learned that Delta Flight 1989 was the plane confused with Flight 93, and the report was retracted as inaccurate. Several websites within the 9/11 Truth Movement dispute this claim, citing the wreckage at the scene, eyewitness testimony, and the difficulty of secretly substituting one plane for another, and claim that such "hoax theories... appear calculated to alienate victims' survivors and the larger public from the 9/11 truth movement".[131][140] The editor of the article has since written a rebuttal to the claims.[141]
Valencia McClatchey, a local woman who took the only photograph of the mushroom cloud from the impact of Flight 93 seconds after it hit the ground, says she has been harassed over the telephone and in person by conspiracy theorists, who claim she faked the photo. The FBI, the Somerset County authorities, the Smithsonian, and the National Park Service’s Flight 93 National Memorial staff have all examined the photograph as well as the film negatives and they consider the photo to be authentic.[142]
While some conspiracy theorists have claimed that passengers of Flight 93 and/or Flight 77, were murdered or that they were relocated, with the intent that they never be found,[76] others within the 9/11 Truth Movement, such as Jim Hoffman[143] and Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice, refute such claims.

[Trip McNeely]

I went when I first moved up here to PA before they had a permanent memorial. It was very somber to say the least. I want to go back and see the new one.

[diablo rojo]

It's well worth it!

[68RR]

My home town is only about 20 miles from the site.. Where the plane hit was part of an area that had been previously strip mined. I do remember some problems about payment for the property, but can't quite remember what it was.