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  • #16


    Here's the real deal, for those who are interested. I can't imagine reacting much differently here than May did, although I don't know that I'd have the balls to ask to drive it (granted, May asking was just posturing).

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    • #17
      Factory 5's kit looks awesome while the Renucci kit has a terrible looking front end.

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      • #18
        if a ferrari doesn't have an even number for a serial number, it's not worth worrying about...........
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Grape View Post
          if a ferrari doesn't have an even number for a serial number, it's not worth worrying about...........
          So you're all about Dinos?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Slowhand View Post
            So you're all about Dinos?
            try again.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Grape View Post
              try again.
              It's either Dinos or race cars. And given your background it's obviously not race cars.

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              • #22
                this is the car my father owned...

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                • #23
                  Ferrari serial numbers(as stolen from google)
                  Road cars: All Ferrari road cars since the inception of the company had odd-numbered serial numbers, starting with 001 S, a RHD Ansaloni-bodied 166 Sport built in February, 1948 (sold to Count Sterzi's company and registered for road use, 10 February 1948). After subsequent owner Stefano La Motta was killed, the car found its way back to Modena where it was scrapped(!); the engine and transmission were rumored to have survived with the infamous Bardinon.

                  Anyway, the odd-numbered sequence continued until October, 1987, when Ferrari built serial number 74999 (model unknown). The very next car, a white Testarossa, bore the first (purposely*) even serial number, 75000. From then on, Ferrari road car serial numbers have been continuously sequential.

                  *I say purposely because, along the way, a few cars have accidentally received even numbers (e.g., 365 GTC/4 16246 - which is allegedly now supposedly 16249; 29264, a Michelotti-rebodied Daytona renumbered by Giovanni Michelotti, etc.)

                  Race cars: The first Ferrari racecars, confusingly enough, were both odd- and even-numbered: 01 C, 02 C, 03 C, 002 C, 004 C, 006 I, 008 I, 010 I, 012 I, 014 I, 016 I, 018 I, 020 I, 022 I, and 024 MB. After that began the four-digit even-numbered racecar serial numbers: 0002 M all the way to 1050. Technically, the four-digit serial numbers go higher than that for contemporary GT cars, but we'll get to that.

                  Formula One cars (pre-1970): The serial numbers for the first monopostos are a bit convoluted, but here's how they're laid out: The first one, a 375 Monoposto (monoposto means single seater for the uninitiated) bore the following serial number: 01 (50/1). The next three subsequent models had similar serial numbers: 02 (50/2), 03 (50/3), and 04 (50/4). After that, the three remaining 375s were 05, 06 and 07. That was in 1951.

                  After that, the years jump around more than the serial numbers (even though that's not possible, it's just how it reads when all of the data is in front of you). But the serial numbers are three- and four-digit numbers, including 102 and 114 in 1951, 0184 F2 in 1953, 01 and 02 (both 553 Supersqualos), 03 in 1954 (also a Supersqualo), 54/1 which was a 625 F1 in 1954; 01, 02-FL9001, and 03-FL9002 in 1955 - all of which were 555 Supersqualos, etc. In the '60s it got a little better: four-digit sequential numbers, irrespective of the years over into which they crossed.

                  Formula One cars (post-1970): By 1970, things were cleaned up. The first 312 B in 1970 was 001, completely sequential to Alonso's F10, s/n 285 (except for serial number 013, which has always been ceremoniously left blank).

                  Dinos: Fiat Dinos - for those who care - bore different serial numbers than the "Ferrari" Dinos we know and love. Fiat Dinos had serial numbers like 000107 AS135 for a 2.0 Spyder, 000138 135AC for a 2.0 Coupe, 0001258 135 BS for a 2.4 Spyder, and 0005214 135BC for a 2.4 Coupe.

                  But for the Dinos we know and love, the 206 SPs, all 17 of them, had three-digit sequentially even numbers from 002 through 034.

                  After that came the Dino 206 GT, starting at 00102, built by Scaglietti. It had an exposed fuel filler cap that was deleted when it was restored by 1986. The 206 GT ran in sequentially even-numbered serial numbers until it ended at 00404 - however, there was a Ferrari spare parts catalogue that claims that 00404 is the first 246! But despite Ferrari Story's #28 claiming that 00404, 00406 and 00410, created for the Barcelona Show, adopted the two-liter engine and still being touted as a 246 GT/L, it is still asserted that 00404 is a 206, and not a 246.

                  There are, however, some gaps toward the end of the 206 GT run. For example, 00400, is a 246 GT, and not a 206. And while proof has never been imputrescible, 00316 (a very early Dino serial number!) is believed and accepted to be a 246. As it were, this is often how prototypes and pre-production models come about.

                  The highest-known 246 GT serial number is 07650, a RHD car with fender flares.

                  This brings us to the GTSes, the earliest of which was once believed to be 03408, but is now known to be 02174, a 1971 European car liveried in Rosso Chiaro with black interior, sold in Milan via Crepaldi. But before that, it was the '62 Geneva Show car.

                  The last known 246 GTS is 08518, a 1974 USA production model, blue with blue leather, power windows, air conditioning, Cromodora wheels; later painted yellow, possibly earlier this decade.

                  IT SHOULD BE NOTED that, along with the other mistakes mentioned above, there is a Dino (or two) with an odd serial number. Specifically, 10523, circa 1967. Just as the aforementioned 365 GTC/4, this is not merely a paperwork issue, but the car's stampings reflect the indelible error. What's even more interesting is that there are TWO Dinos - yes, TWO - and both bear this exact same serial number. Jim Glickenhaus owns one of them. These two cars were two of three prototypes, but only one was supposed to get a serial number - instead they gave the same serial number to two of the prototypes. I believe Jim's car is the one painted purple.

                  333 SPs: Only 40 of these, serial numbers 001 through 041 (remember 013 wasn't used).

                  GT cars: For the GT cars, this system began contemporarily with a variation of the 360 Challenge, the 360 N-GT - s/n 001 M. This went on through 016 M until they got to 360 GT, s/n 2024, then 360 GTC s/n 2060 (there might be numbers between that I'm just missing). The 575 GTC, F430 GT2, and the 430 GTC all follow in the footsteps of these four-digit serial numbers whose serial number prefixes are often the cars' respective engine types (e.g., F131EVOGTC2656 is a 430 GTC).
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                  • #24
                    Grape always has cool shit to show off.

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                    • #25


                      white car with the red 3 on the side, is the car when phil hill drove it at elkhart lake.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Grape View Post
                        http://youtu.be/Q95-hqPEMHQ

                        white car with the red 3 on the side, is the car when phil hill drove it at elkhart lake.
                        Pretty fucking cool.

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                        • #27
                          carrol shelby driving the car in 1956 after being purchased from phil hill's car owner at the end of 1955.




                          how it left my parents' house when i was in high school.

                          Last edited by Grape; 08-02-2012, 12:05 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Grape, that car's prob worth deep 7 or low 8 figures now that Carrol's gone. Very cool that you have memories of it though.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by STROKD View Post
                              Grape, that car's prob worth deep 7 or low 8 figures now that Carrol's gone. Very cool that you have memories of it though.
                              There was absolutely no way my family could afford to restore that car properly, they were rewarded handsomely for finding it however. i still have one of the original scaglietti body tags on display at my house.
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                              • #30
                                That's beyond cool mr. Grape.

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