Random Fight of the day Thread!!!

[line-em-up]

Fuck you are an idiot. That video was shot at Walmart. I am pretty fucking sure that those aren't the Walton boys.

You both have good points. You are just coming from different angles. My first post was from SS Junks angle, but I also understand that you need to pick your battles and, to me, saving wallyworld's money ain't one of them.

[SS Junk]

Fuck you are an idiot. That video was shot at Walmart. I am pretty fucking sure that those aren't the Walton boys.

And you are an angry little shit. That's what is funny about instances like this. You see a few seconds of a video and have it all figured out. If the dude who received the beat down actually stole then he deserves every bit of what he got regardless of whatever it is that was stolen and don't care who it was who issued the beat down. Guarantee if this was some bystander trying to stop a thief you'd be all over it wanting to hump his leg.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

And you are an angry little shit. That's what is funny about instances like this. You see a few seconds of a video and have it all figured out. If the dude who received the beat down actually stole then he deserves every bit of what he got regardless of whatever it is that was stolen and don't care who it was who issued the beat down. Guarantee if this was some bystander trying to stop a thief you'd be all over it wanting to hump his leg.

I don't see how your idiocy has any bearing on me being angry. I have been an LP agent for several companies and am well aware of the proper procedures for making an apprehension. Regardless of what the guy deserved that particular apprehension will cost the company more money than the value of the items recovered. That is my point. The LP agents were wrong no matter what the guy did or stole. At no point is it acceptable to be unprofessional. Maybe if you read my post where I addressed several things I saw wrong you would see where I am coming from.

Like I said, I will handle someone stealing from me differently than I will handle theft from a company I work for.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

You both have good points. You are just coming from different angles. My first post was from SS Junks angle, but I also understand that you need to pick your battles and, to me, saving wallyworld's money ain't one of them.

Nah man, SS Junk's angle is reckless and does more damage than is necessary. When being paid to reduce the amount of loss a company experiences you don't do something that puts the company at risk for a much larger loss.

Do I hate thieves? Yes.
Do I like seeing thieves getting their ass kicked? Yes
Do I think the two LP agents were right? No
Should the LP agents be fired? Absolutely.

[SS Junk]

I'd give them a good pat on the back and a promotion. I'd also hire those who could handle themselves instead of some 5'2" angry little turd who would cower at the first sign of trouble.

[Scott Mc]

Nah man, SS Junk's angle is reckless and does more damage than is necessary. When being paid to reduce the amount of loss a company experiences you don't do something that puts the company at risk for a much larger loss.

Do I hate thieves? Yes.
Do I like seeing thieves getting their ass kicked? Yes
Do I think the two LP agents were right? No
Should the LP agents be fired? Absolutely.

Solid reality

I'd give them a good pat on the back and a promotion. I'd also hire those who could handle themselves instead of some 5'2" angry little turd who would cower at the first sign of trouble.

Guy that might not understand how business works and is a gun slinger. Being right can also mean you are dead right. Pick your battles man.

[SS Junk]

http://globalnews.ca/news/1539951/watch-violent-takedown-of-alleged-wal-mart-shoplifter-police-investigate/

EDMONTON – A violent takedown of an alleged shoplifter by two Walmart loss prevention officers in Edmonton that was caught on video and posted online has led to two separate investigations.

The video was posted on September 1 on the website Live Leak by user OPD21.

It shows the two loss prevention officers struggling with a suspect who allegedly pulls a knife as they try to take him into custody. One of the loss prevention officers can be heard telling the suspect repeatedly not to resist arrest. The video shows the suspect being wrestled to the pavement and subdued with punches. There appears to be blood on the suspect’s head and ground. At one point, the video appears to show a knife on the ground.

WATCH: Video of the takedown posted on Live Leak by user OPD21. Warning: the content may be disturbing to some.

Edmonton police confirm they were called to an alleged theft in west Edmonton, near 185 Street and Stony Plain Road, around 8 p.m. on August 28.

“There was a report of an altercation taking place between an accused who had allegedly stolen some things from the store and two loss prevention officers,” said Patrycia Thenu, an Edmonton police spokesperson.

Jeremy Garnhum, 26, has been charged with assault with a weapon, assault to overcome arrest, theft under $5,000, and possession of a weapon dangerous to the public.

The accused was treated for injuries but not admitted to hospital.

As of Tuesday, no charges had been laid against the Loss Prevention Officers.

“The investigation is still open,” said Thenu. “If charges are appropriate, the officers can always lay those charges.”

Police say the video has been submitted as court evidence.

In a statement, Walmart said:

“We are deeply concerned about the incident that occurred at our West Edmonton store.

“Nothing is more important than ensuring our associates and customers are safe and we are conducting a review of our processes to ensure all safety considerations are addressed.”

There is no word on whether the loss prevention officers are still employed by the giant retailer.

Legal counsel for Global News explains that loss prevention officers have the same power as any other member of the public to make a citizen’s arrest of someone they “find committing” an indictable offence.

In contrast, peace officers (police included) have the power to arrest someone if there are “reasonable grounds to believe” that someone has committed an offence.

Garry Clement, a former high-ranking RCMP officer who now works as a corporate security consultant had concerns with what the video depicted.

“We don’t know what went on before, but the part that I think disturbs me a little bit is that – in any situation like this – there has to be an element of professionalism.”

“What I see here is two young individuals … their language is atrocious as far as I’m concerned, they don’t come across professional,” said Clement.

“Even once you get the individual down, that taking an extra swing and hitting somebody is not really something that you want to see.”

“This here is just conduct that would not be acceptable to me.”

Clement believes the video highlights the need for more training.

“My first reaction is there is a need for enhanced training of individuals that are working in this capacity.”

“They are not armed police officers,” Clement added, “they’re civilians, and they’re affecting an arrest as a civilian.”

“In this case, if they’ve identified the individual, to go to that extreme, I think begs to ask a lot of questions.”

Alberta Justice’s Security Services and Investigators Program – through which loss prevention officers must be licensed – is aware of the August 28 incident and will review it.

None of the charges against the suspect have been proven in court.

The bolded part fucking kills me. Of course, being in Canada if it were him in that situation he'd apologize to the perp as he was cussing him out and smashing him in the face to get his hand out from under him.

[Probie]

I'd give them a good pat on the back and a promotion. I'd also hire those who could handle themselves instead of some 5'2" angry little turd who would cower at the first sign of trouble.

How was that handling themselves? It was 2 on 1 and that dude still almost got shanked. If you're gonna take someone down, take them down hard and fast.

[Probie]

The bolded part fucking kills me. Of course, being in Canada if it were him in that situation he'd apologize to the perp as he was cussing him out and smashing him in the face to get his hand out from under him.

It's a job. Not a bar fight. Act professional, I highly doubt you would see secret service cussing someone out and beating them after they had them subdued.

[SS Junk]

It's a job. Not a bar fight. Act professional, I highly doubt you would see secret service cussing someone out and beating them after they had them subdued.

You're telling me you'd still be professional while trying to arrest someone who just stabbed you?

[John -- '02 HAWK]

have the 2 loss prevention "officers" been fired?

[Pokulski-Blatz]

You're telling me you'd still be professional while trying to arrest someone who just stabbed you?

Yes. I can say that because I have been in that exact situation.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

have the 2 loss prevention "officers" been fired?

I can guarantee it.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I'd give them a good pat on the back and a promotion. I'd also hire those who could handle themselves instead of some 5'2" angry little turd who would cower at the first sign of trouble.

Lmao, you wouldn't last long enough in that field to be able to promote someone. Keep up with the baseless insults, they don't bother me in the least. I know I can handle myself in these situations because I have been in them. You on the other hand think you know how you would react. My feeling is you would look like a deer in the headlights.

Wait, didn't someone from the board beat the shit out of your loud mouthed ass at one point?

[phaux]

Yes. I can say that because I have been in that exact situation.

Dang sucka, when'd you get stabbed?