Talk to the police? Try this on for size.

[talisman]

It is hilarious because you don't see how miserable you are and sit at home just waiting on someone to make a comment so you can DeSTroY them on the web and make yourself look cool.

Fucking grow up.

Go ahead and twist my words to make them fit your own distorted view of reality.

Awww, everyone else has a distorted view of reality, yet who is the cop arguing people are guilty until proven innocent if they decline to cooperate with your flatfoot ass? Watching you reach for ridiculous comparisons and then pointing out the obvious doesn't in any way make me cool. Me being me makes me cool.

[GE]

To me it just depends. I'm not going to flat out tell the cops to go fuck themselves in any given instance. But if for whatever reason I'm invited to the interview room, all bets are off. I've been to enough interviewing/interrogation schools and conducted enough to know how that game goes. Just the given # of false confessions out there is alarming enough for me to want counsel present before I say much.

[bcoop]

Go re-read the posts and come back when you have some grasp of what I posted.

I've read them. Why don't you go re-read the posts, and come back when you have a grasp of what you posted, vs what you intended to post?

Oh, Brent and now Alan!

Yay! Nutswingers #1 and #2.

Yes, because anyone that calls you out to be the bumbling dumbass you are, is obviously a nutswinger. It's a good thing you're a cop, you lack the intelligence required for any business career.

[bcoop]

To me it just depends. I'm not going to flat out tell the cops to go fuck themselves in any given instance. But if for whatever reason I'm invited to the interview room, all bets are off. I've been to enough interviewing/interrogation schools and conducted enough to know how that game goes. Just the given # of false confessions out there is alarming enough for me to want counsel present before I say much.

This post right here is pretty telling, given your involvement with the other side. Wait for it Geoff, Matt is going to start arguing with you because you aren't towing the line!

[Forever_frost]

To me it just depends. I'm not going to flat out tell the cops to go fuck themselves in any given instance. But if for whatever reason I'm invited to the interview room, all bets are off. I've been to enough interviewing/interrogation schools and conducted enough to know how that game goes. Just the given # of false confessions out there is alarming enough for me to want counsel present before I say much.

Hell, that's criminal justice 101. Not only will anything you say be used against you, anything they CLAIM you said and any body language will be evaluated as well.

[03trubluGT]

If the guy tells the cop that he wants a lawyer, he's within his rights. Do you really have to try these emotional pleas that you want to use to justify the unconstitutional actions of some officers? Really? If he rapes my wife, I'll kill him before the cop gets there or after the cop leaves. I'll deal with that myself. I don't need a cop to handle my issues.

And yes, I want to buy the man a beer for acknowledging the constitution protects EVERYONE.

Now you tell me Matt, if one of your fellow officers beats a suspect into the ground and then wants an attorney, should I defend his right to an attorney or just demand he be curb stomped?

I guess you and I define emotional plea differently, but here we go...

What officers and what actions am I trying to justify? Where did I say that it was good police work to use unconstitutional means?

Your last scenario has me wondering what the real question is. Are you asking that someone has a right to council? If that is the question, then yes.

You have done the typical skimming of my posts, gleaned what you want (albeit wrong), and restated my beliefs in a way not consistent to what they really are.

Some of the folks here are delusional and cannot grasp the difference between reality, scenario, and just plain sarcasm.

[03trubluGT]

Awww, everyone else has a distorted view of reality, yet who is the cop arguing people are guilty until proven innocent if they decline to cooperate with your flatfoot ass? Watching you reach for ridiculous comparisons and then pointing out the obvious doesn't in any way make me cool. Me being me makes me cool.

You too are guilty of misreading/misinterpreting my posts.

Please go back and comprehend what you are reading before you try to act like the internet bad ass that you aren't.

[talisman]

Some of the folks here are delusional and cannot grasp the difference between reality, scenario, and just plain sarcasm.

Because you blend them all so well while outlining outrageous scenarios that involve the police never being wrong. I just can't figure it out. It's definitely EVERYONE ELSE.

[03trubluGT]

To me it just depends. I'm not going to flat out tell the cops to go fuck themselves in any given instance. But if for whatever reason I'm invited to the interview room, all bets are off. I've been to enough interviewing/interrogation schools and conducted enough to know how that game goes. Just the given # of false confessions out there is alarming enough for me to want counsel present before I say much.

Don't get yourself into a situation where this happens and you won't have to worry about it.

If you do, then just politely say that I do not want to talk to any agent of law enforcement, and invoke your right to an attorney.

I'm confident that there are still LEOs out there that try to unethically work around the system, but it should not still be happening in 2012.

[03trubluGT]

Because you blend them all so well while outlining outrageous scenarios that involve the police never being wrong. I just can't figure it out. It's definitely EVERYONE ELSE.

There's the old tactic of "I'm gonna speak for everyone on the board and say we're against YOU"!

Nice. You must be running out of verbal diarrhea to be grasping at that one.

[talisman]

Don't get yourself into a situation where this happens and you won't have to worry about it.

lmao, because every innocent person who was ever accused of something is at fault for being under the wrong set of circumstances to be in a position of being accused? You're out of your fucking mind.

[talisman]

There's the old tactic of "I'm gonna speak for everyone on the board and say we're against YOU"!

Nice. You must be running out of verbal diarrhea to be grasping at that one.

Well, you might as well follow it up with the volumes of PMs you get supporting your dumbass, from all those stand up citizens that are apparently so proud of you, yet terrified to mention anything in public. It's like a ghost just steals their posts off the board before anyone reads them. Maybe The History Channel could look into it for you?

[03trubluGT]

lmao, because every innocent person who was ever accused of something is at fault for being under the wrong set of circumstances to be in a position of being accused? You're out of your fucking mind.

Well, I was just accused of having "inappropriate relations" with Sandusky yesterday......

Gimme a fucking break. You know damn well that isn't true. It's the job of the system to do the best job possible to bring the true offender to justice. We all know it isn't perfect, but when has someone who has NEVER been out of Tampa been accused of a capitol felony in San Antonio?

[03trubluGT]

Well, you might as well follow it up with the volumes of PMs you get supporting your dumbass, from all those stand up citizens that are apparently so proud of you, yet terrified to mention anything in public. It's like a ghost just steals their posts off the board before anyone reads them. Maybe The History Channel could look into it for you?

Here's a partial quote from one of the PMs, pay special attention to the part in bold Eric:

Thank you for what you do Sir!

There is no way I could do your job with the additional stress in the back of my mind wondering if it makes to the media how it would play out. And if it is like my job knowing leadership will stand by you but cut your throat to cover their ass no matter if you are right.

Then to come on here and have to put up with a wanna be rat pack of cool kids dragging you in when they don't have anything original to post or say. I find it so funny they have to resort to timing you being away (having a real life) how long it takes to respond to one of their barbs. I can't even imagine the hours they spend on here that they could be out doing real shit. Not just posting empty words that only matter if their target even gives a shit.

Keep on being you dude... You see the anti FTP crowd pop up a lot if you look for it. The FTP crowd are the first ones to bitch when they need your help and something in their small minds does not go right...

[talisman]

but when has someone who has NEVER been out of Tampa been accused of a capitol felony in San Antonio?

What's scary is you really do believe it. You're trying to pretend like you don't, but then you spout off something like this. I really wish you'd stop commenting publicly about police matters. You make me sad for the rest of the officers on this site.