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  • #31
    What happened before that hour that made him go over there with the camera and gun. Seems like there was a situation right before that one. He deserves jail time. Pussy

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    • #32
      Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post

      I thumbs up the guy charging a man with a gun getting two to the chest.
      lolwtf

      You congratulate the guy charging a man who is prepared to shoot? Do you thumbs up every darwin awards winner?

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
      Might be two prize winners in this one.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Magnus View Post
        lolwtf

        You congratulate the guy charging a man who is prepared to shoot? Do you thumbs up every darwin awards winner?Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
        Might be two prize winners in this one.
        Yes. I do. Cause I know that it takes a special kind of person to win a Darwin. Whereas I do not strive to slide down to that level of stupidity, where would the world be without stupid people. Thumbs up sir.
        Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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        • #34
          What an idiot.....

          'Damn punks are playing their music too loud. I know, I will wear my gun, get a camera and argue with a group of people that have been drinking all night. I am a genius!'

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
            where would the world be without stupid people.
            A much better place.

            This is one of those "When idiots collide" stories.
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            • #36
              He shouldn't have been there in the first place, but consider if you ended up in that situation (such as coming home and parking near the party). I would NOT retreat to my house -- they could charge you from behind or pull a gun themselves. After all that...there's now an entire party that knows where you live and has time to prepare (obviously, they were a pretty stupid bunch). I would backup slowly but not get cornered. He was right to fire, but not right to instigate.

              My only issue is what can you give this guy for instigating the situation? You can't take his CHL away...I mean you CAN...but should you? I can't decide.
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              • #37
                He may very well have been within his rights, if he somehow gets off he will get f'd at a civil trial.

                Whole thing was not worth it he should have called the cops for something as minor as a noise problem.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                  What an idiot.....

                  'Damn punks are playing their music too loud. I know, I will wear my gun, get a camera and argue with a group of people that have been drinking all night. I am a genius!'
                  The gun part itself shouldn't bother anyone. With a CHL, it's typical accoutrement whether you are asking your neighbor for a cup of sugar or to turn their music down.
                  Men have become the tools of their tools.
                  -Henry David Thoreau

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Labora View Post
                    He may very well have been within his rights, if he somehow gets off he will get f'd at a civil trial.

                    Whole thing was not worth it he should have called the cops for something as minor as a noise problem.
                    If he gets a not-guilty based on 9.32, he'll have immunity against any civil suits.

                    SECTION 4. Section 83.001, Civil Practice and Remedies Code, is amended to read as follows:

                    Sec. 83.001. CIVIL IMMUNITY [AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE]. A [It is an affirmative defense to a civil action for damages for personal injury or death that the] defendant who uses force or[, at the time the cause of action arose, was justified in using] deadly force that is justified under Chapter 9 [Section 9.32], Penal Code, is immune from civil liability for personal injury or death that results from the defendant’s [against a person who at the time of the] use of force or deadly force, as applicable [was committing an offense of unlawful entry in the habitation of the defendant].

                    SECTION 5. (a) Sections 9.31 and 9.32, Penal Code, as amended by this Act, apply only to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act. An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is covered by the law in effect when the offense was committed, and the former law is continued in effect for this purpose. For the purposes of this subsection, an offense is committed before the effective date of this Act if any element of the offense occurs before the effective date.

                    (b) Section 83.001, Civil Practice and Remedies Code, as amended by this Act, applies only to a cause of action that accrues on or after the effective date of this Act. An action that accrued before the effective date of this Act is governed by the law in effect at the time the action accrued, and that law is continued in effect for that purpose.

                    SECTION 6. This Act takes effect September 1, 2007.
                    Men have become the tools of their tools.
                    -Henry David Thoreau

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                    • #40
                      He is afraid for his life? Yet he is in the road or the neighbors property talking on a cell phone not running away? Fuck him. He abused the SYG and now the media will blow this up. Fucking trigger happy idiot needs to be in jail

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                      • #41
                        He was aiming at the pitbull, when the guy walked into his range.

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                        • #42
                          He's in Harris county and he shot a Fire department Captain. He's fucked even if it was a good shoot. After watching the video it sounds like someone came running at him laughing like a f'in maniac. Not a good idea.
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                          • #43
                            Bad timing, will be compared to zimmerman case wayyyyy too much by the media.



                            Should have left the situation to avoid any escalation, only if there was no possible way out for him to escape safely did he have enough reason. Don't get me wrong, no compassion for a dumbass charging someone with a gun(and knows full well he has one), but the lawyers will have a field day on this case.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GT Fanatic View Post
                              He was aiming at the pitbull, when the guy walked into his range.
                              The guy wasn't a cop, so why would he be aiming at the pitbull?



                              This guy is going to feel really fucking stupid the moment the cell door closes behind him forever. He's going to realize that had he just kept his dumbass in the house it all could have been avoided.

                              I'm wondering what history he has with his neighbors that made him think he needed to go outside to deal with this situation. I wouldn't think this would have been the first time they have had words. Both sides seemed way too mouthy to not crossed paths before.

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                              • #45
                                Probably a nosy neighbor that has complained before(not saying without reason) and the noisy drunks have told him to go fuck himself several times before.


                                Either way, if you're timid and don't know when/if the right situation to use deadly force is(and more importantly how to avoid getting yourself in those situations), you don't need to be carrying.

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